Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: A Little Council Reform Anyone?

[Ciaran McCreesh <ciaran.mccreesh@googlemail.com>]

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On Tue, 07 Jul 2009 22:51:05 +0000
"Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto" <jmbsvicetto@gentoo.org> wrote:
> As Denis has already stated we're not interested in the disputes
> between you, paludis, exherbo and some other users or projects
> (funtoo?). This ml is about Gentoo not about your (ciaranm, igli,
> trelane, etc) pet projects.

We were discussing the Gentoo PMS project, and the Council's
involvement therein.

> As you know very well, quite a few people would qualify your own
> behaviour at times like that. So this is one of those cases that you
> should start by looking at the mirror.
> 
> <snip>
> 
> We all have plenty examples of your bad behaviour, so let's not go
> down that route.

Please point to examples of where I've said that I want a project to
fail, or that I plan to oppose absolutely everything someone does
regardless of merit. Please also point to examples of where I've said
that I want anything other than what's best for Gentoo.

> Some people seem to think that the best way for Gentoo to progress as
> they would like, they need to ensure that you don't get to influence
> Gentoo as they consider your proposals compromise Gentoo's future.

Then they should address each proposal on its own merits. That isn't
what's being discussed, though. We're discussing a small group of
people whose stated aim is to disrupt anything they can associate with
me in any way. How is that in any way good for Gentoo's future?

> But again, we (Gentoo developers and community) are getting tired of
> all the "bile" flying around. Please stop with that.

Then please start by addressing the part of the email you snipped out,
and explain how you expect the Gentoo PMS project to operate under
those kinds of conditions, and why userrel hasn't stepped in when a
small group of users have said that they intend to sabotage a Gentoo
project.

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Ciaran McCreesh
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