From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MMSuf-0007Sd-Ru for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:29:46 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F1432E07E3; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 20:29:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mo-p05-ob.rzone.de (mo-p05-ob.rzone.de [81.169.146.182]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98908E07E3 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 20:29:44 +0000 (UTC) X-RZG-AUTH: :K2kKYU+nW/MMMlTokcN5Yot1/Bj/FTl+WviP6RIJci0HRMpbh/x+X6ShOQvVOjw+sRFUf0INJrw= X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo05 Received: from localhost (p57A4EE51.dip.t-dialin.net [87.164.238.81]) by post.strato.de (fruni mo28) (RZmta 18.48) with ESMTP id 303866l62HYoMh ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 22:29:40 +0200 (MEST) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 22:29:39 +0200 From: Christian Faulhammer To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Cc: solar@gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: A Little Council Reform Anyone? Message-ID: <20090702222939.5fa6cf00@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <20090702212249.456f0679@snowcone> References: <1246502033.5688.40.camel@localhost> <20090702221425.6457ab24@gentoo.org> <20090702212249.456f0679@snowcone> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.1 (GTK+ 2.14.7; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/OTR3GUj/vYqQOWoy6Wo1F++"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 X-Archives-Salt: c7a37f11-fba2-454b-82e0-aa43a36acf53 X-Archives-Hash: a9547433111c790691bff1f5058f6981 --Sig_/OTR3GUj/vYqQOWoy6Wo1F++ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Ciaran McCreesh : > On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 22:14:25 +0200 > Christian Faulhammer wrote: > > > Another one of the things I'd like to see and help reform with the > > > council. First off it spends way too much time on EAPI/PMS. There > > > is no reason to make the council an extension of the portage team. > >=20 > > As member of the PMS team I agree, we have to reach out to more > > people. No matter how well Ciaran does the job as editor-in-chief > > the process needs to be broadened to involve other groups, too. >=20 > Which groups who would like to be able to contribute currently feel > that they can't, why do they feel that and why haven't they said so? For example people from the other package managers apart from Paludis. What we need is a more straight forward way for new features...yes, some measures are already being worked out, but there is still work to do. > Really, the only big issues we've had with EAPI work are getting > Portage support and working around a Council that wants to both > micro-manage every last detail of every last feature and only put in > an hour of work every two weeks. Discussion of EAPI features took place on the -dev mailing list involving council members, so one hour every two weeks is quite exaggerated. V-Li --=20 Christian Faulhammer, Gentoo Lisp project , #gentoo-lisp on FreeNode --Sig_/OTR3GUj/vYqQOWoy6Wo1F++ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkpNGLMACgkQNQqtfCuFneNawQCfevmEbti4bZJI+ttA1dRP1g/0 d2EAn0mZl8ozytKD6Er1uNsZoknQL3kW =Tzdz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/OTR3GUj/vYqQOWoy6Wo1F++--