From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MMSo6-0005jL-Bk for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:22:58 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C7F55E0776; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 20:22:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ew0-f211.google.com (mail-ew0-f211.google.com [209.85.219.211]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A87CE0776 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 20:22:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy7 with SMTP id 7so2150091ewy.34 for ; Thu, 02 Jul 2009 13:22:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type; bh=P0KkOM0Xu6YGq8lQWr21loI+bTIAD1ROtrYjmHlCQS4=; b=CpbOLyBnAD0YPN5EB0WAap2eTDkgcbYVTSMF8XPTpX64rHEPGJxNDKOr2j4on4qHw4 pWVJwboeVmRKYnRXrpojBuTbrZLDFeWuU0jio7gNj+IXoY1SGXXpaHLMrJmNQEyOF2FP IeFakELN8UtpQnC8XAYB6EpqeGz+2JiZOTWRM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type; b=q2LplLEokVZWyU3OJIsVm211jNaedu5Z1R+hMFliEwS1p7+x2HuKTtjSlvsAIs1HyM vcgRUARinqnIT1A3e+pzxyW1pf0BMyhg9NKcU7G2xSJATVYeXT2H1iyLDfIKSOk2SjlG IoMK/ttjAqoRH6izjDcjZcdKDGS730GSpSNaE= Received: by 10.216.17.212 with SMTP id j62mr125973wej.132.1246566175878; Thu, 02 Jul 2009 13:22:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from snowcone (92-235-187-79.cable.ubr18.sgyl.blueyonder.co.uk [92.235.187.79]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g11sm6480374gve.1.2009.07.02.13.22.55 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 02 Jul 2009 13:22:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 21:22:49 +0100 From: Ciaran McCreesh To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: A Little Council Reform Anyone? Message-ID: <20090702212249.456f0679@snowcone> In-Reply-To: <20090702221425.6457ab24@gentoo.org> References: <1246502033.5688.40.camel@localhost> <20090702221425.6457ab24@gentoo.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.1 (GTK+ 2.14.7; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/E+naE=JMU+NWESM6V9TAk7e"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: eab86af6-47ea-46de-8110-7a5b235f4da5 X-Archives-Hash: d734a5ada17bfa97ef6c830f1be0196d --Sig_/E+naE=JMU+NWESM6V9TAk7e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 22:14:25 +0200 Christian Faulhammer wrote: > > Another one of the things I'd like to see and help reform with the > > council. First off it spends way too much time on EAPI/PMS. There is > > no reason to make the council an extension of the portage team. >=20 > As member of the PMS team I agree, we have to reach out to more > people. No matter how well Ciaran does the job as editor-in-chief > the process needs to be broadened to involve other groups, too. Which groups who would like to be able to contribute currently feel that they can't, why do they feel that and why haven't they said so? Really, the only big issues we've had with EAPI work are getting Portage support and working around a Council that wants to both micro-manage every last detail of every last feature and only put in an hour of work every two weeks. --=20 Ciaran McCreesh --Sig_/E+naE=JMU+NWESM6V9TAk7e Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkpNFxwACgkQ96zL6DUtXhG+nwCcDyf4ltbOxN6YMd9bcpOnWqZm 0LcAn3BKPakOZkHCVWLWnEp+rSAm6VfN =svwg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/E+naE=JMU+NWESM6V9TAk7e--