From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1M9kft-0007aW-4x for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 28 May 2009 18:49:57 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A4D7CE0374; Thu, 28 May 2009 18:49:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dev.gentooexperimental.org (dev.gentooexperimental.org [81.93.240.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B5EEE0374 for ; Thu, 28 May 2009 18:49:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lolcathost.localnet (xdsl-87-79-233-251.netcologne.de [87.79.233.251]) by dev.gentooexperimental.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA46B62D672 for ; Thu, 28 May 2009 20:49:54 +0200 (CEST) From: Patrick Lauer To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] How not to discuss Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 20:49:54 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.90 (Linux/2.6.30-rc6-git7; KDE/4.2.88; x86_64; ; ) References: <20090527210642.6b7b0f21@snowcone> <200905280828.13024.patrick@gentoo.org> <20090528191457.21ab4546@snowcone> In-Reply-To: <20090528191457.21ab4546@snowcone> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200905282049.54434.patrick@gentoo.org> X-Archives-Salt: 85f32c21-e9e0-46da-b2ee-62e8c46aeabd X-Archives-Hash: daee149f5d8b320506a111e73eaa04b7 On Thursday 28 May 2009 20:14:57 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Thu, 28 May 2009 08:28:12 +0200 > > Patrick Lauer wrote: > > - Try to avoid subjective statements. Statements like "C++ feels > > better" don't add anything to the discussion and are objectively > > wrong for me, so they have no place in a technical discussion > > You mean like "EAPI in the filename feels bad"? I agree, that has no > place in a technical discussion. > > > > Not once has there been an equally good alternative proposed. > > > > That's subjective, and let me be the first one to disagree. > > No, it's entirely objective. GLEP 55 clearly shows how the filename > based options are objectively better than anything else. > Ciaran ... you're obviously trying to bait people here. Please don't do that. Trolling is not something you should do on public mailing lists. I could spend lots of time trying to dissect your monologue, but if you are unwilling to accept that your opinion is subjective and that my opinion may differ from yours any further communication would be futile. Now you may still think (subjective thing, that) that glep55 is the best solution. And I, with the same subjectivity, think it isn't. Trying to weasel your way around that with semantic games is not going to change the objective reality we both share. Get used to it. And once you get used to that we can start a dialogue. Imagine that.