From: Ciaran McCreesh <ciaran.mccreesh@googlemail.com>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for May 28
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 19:48:45 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090528194845.30a7c9ad@snowcone> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200905282030.44496.patrick@gentoo.org>
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On Thu, 28 May 2009 20:30:44 +0200
Patrick Lauer <patrick@gentoo.org> wrote:
> > Interactive time is important. If it were adding those extra
> > seconds to the build, no-one would care. But it's not. It's adding
> > them to when the user's sitting at the screen waiting for results.
>
> So how about we improve the structure instead of trying to patch up
> some hotspots?
That's a subject for a different GLEP, and one that's not going to go
anywhere ever unless someone comes up with a way of doing it
incrementally. GLEP 55's performance concerns are limited to not making
things worse.
> For example a readonly repository would guarantee that the cache is
> always consistent.
Until someone modifies it, yes.
> > > You mean 0.3% (or less) of the emerge world time?
> >
> > No, he means 50% of pretend time when you're sitting there waiting
> > to see what's going to happen.
>
> So fix the diseases instead of doctoring around some symptoms ...
I await your GLEP that covers how to migrate the tree layout. That's a
separate issue, however.
> > It is the best. If we're requiring EAPI before trying to parse PV,
> > all the EAPIs have to be known to do any ordering.
>
> ... and why the [censored] would we want that then?
Because without that, we can't make changes to the version format.
> It would help if you would tolerate other opinions (or even the
> possibility that other people may have opinions that do not agree
> with you).
The only issue of opinion is whether or not .ebuild-X and .eapi-X.eb
look pretty. The rest is purely technical and entirely objective.
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Ciaran McCreesh
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Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-05-26 18:57 [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for May 28 Tiziano Müller
2009-05-27 12:46 ` Ferris McCormick
2009-05-27 13:25 ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-05-27 19:55 ` Roy Bamford
2009-05-27 20:06 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-27 21:43 ` Roy Bamford
2009-05-27 21:52 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-27 23:26 ` [gentoo-dev] " Mark Bateman
2009-05-27 23:45 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-27 23:48 ` Jeroen Roovers
2009-05-27 23:54 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-28 3:58 ` Jeroen Roovers
2009-05-28 6:28 ` [gentoo-dev] How not to discuss Patrick Lauer
2009-05-28 18:14 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-28 18:36 ` Alec Warner
2009-05-28 18:58 ` Roy Bamford
2009-05-28 19:15 ` Joe Peterson
2009-05-28 19:40 ` Piotr Jaroszyński
2009-05-29 9:23 ` Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
2009-05-30 0:38 ` Alec Warner
2009-05-30 15:08 ` Joe Peterson
2009-05-28 18:49 ` Patrick Lauer
2009-05-28 19:11 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-29 2:41 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2009-05-29 2:12 ` Ryan Hill
2009-05-29 21:49 ` Patrick Lauer
2009-05-30 20:56 ` Ryan Hill
2009-05-31 1:57 ` Richard Freeman
2009-05-31 9:25 ` Thilo Bangert
2009-05-31 10:57 ` Duncan
2009-05-31 22:01 ` Richard Freeman
2009-06-02 8:20 ` Steven J Long
2009-06-02 12:53 ` Duncan
2009-06-04 14:11 ` Steven J Long
2009-06-02 15:38 ` Richard Freeman
2009-06-03 10:43 ` Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
2009-06-03 18:23 ` Richard Freeman
2009-05-28 5:46 ` [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for May 28 Tiziano Müller
2009-05-28 7:23 ` Patrick Lauer
2009-05-28 9:35 ` Tiziano Müller
2009-05-28 17:56 ` Roy Bamford
2009-05-28 18:04 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-28 18:30 ` Patrick Lauer
2009-05-28 18:48 ` Ciaran McCreesh [this message]
2009-05-28 19:19 ` Patrick Lauer
2009-05-28 19:26 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-28 19:42 ` Josh Saddler
2009-05-28 19:43 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-28 19:42 ` Roy Bamford
2009-05-28 19:54 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-28 21:31 ` Roy Bamford
2009-05-28 19:46 ` Patrick Lauer
2009-05-28 19:52 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-28 20:56 ` Patrick Lauer
2009-05-28 21:09 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-27 20:57 ` Joe Peterson
2009-05-27 21:58 ` Patrick Lauer
2009-05-27 22:12 ` Piotr Jaroszyński
2009-05-27 22:33 ` Patrick Lauer
2009-05-27 23:10 ` Piotr Jaroszyński
2009-05-28 6:36 ` Patrick Lauer
2009-06-01 20:42 ` Tiziano Müller
2009-05-28 13:11 ` Ferris McCormick
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