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From: Ciaran McCreesh <ciaran.mccreesh@googlemail.com>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for May 28
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 19:04:18 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090528190418.4712e0c1@snowcone> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1243533366.3439.0@NeddySeagoon>

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On Thu, 28 May 2009 18:56:00 +0100
Roy Bamford <neddyseagoon@gentoo.org> wrote:
> As I understand this, it may add six seconds to an emerge world while 
> the dep tree is calculated. Lets say it takes an hour to do emerge 
> world, the time has increased from 3600 seconds to 3606 seconds or a 
> trivial 0.1666667%

Interactive time is important. If it were adding those extra seconds to
the build, no-one would care. But it's not. It's adding them to when
the user's sitting at the screen waiting for results.

> You mean 0.3% (or less) of the emerge world time?

No, he means 50% of pretend time when you're sitting there waiting to
see what's going to happen.

> I am against *all* and any metadata in the filename. Today, GLEP 55 
> proposes the add the EAIP, tomorrow, there will be something else,
> the day after another thing ... and all because allowing EAPI set the 
> precedent.

No there won't be. There is no slippery slope. Also, PV and PN are
already in the filename.

> You also make the error of assuming that with eapi-in-ebuild the 
> currently suggested approaches to extracting the EAPI from the ebuild 
> are the best and remain unchanged. Thats unlikely, as not a lot of
> work has been done it yet.

It is the best. If we're requiring EAPI before trying to parse PV, all
the EAPIs have to be known to do any ordering.

- -- 
Ciaran McCreesh
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  reply	other threads:[~2009-05-28 18:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-05-26 18:57 [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for May 28 Tiziano Müller
2009-05-27 12:46 ` Ferris McCormick
2009-05-27 13:25   ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-05-27 19:55   ` Roy Bamford
2009-05-27 20:06     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-27 21:43       ` Roy Bamford
2009-05-27 21:52         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-27 23:26           ` [gentoo-dev] " Mark Bateman
2009-05-27 23:45             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-27 23:48               ` Jeroen Roovers
2009-05-27 23:54                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-28  3:58                   ` Jeroen Roovers
2009-05-28  6:28               ` [gentoo-dev] How not to discuss Patrick Lauer
2009-05-28 18:14                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-28 18:36                   ` Alec Warner
2009-05-28 18:58                     ` Roy Bamford
2009-05-28 19:15                     ` Joe Peterson
2009-05-28 19:40                       ` Piotr Jaroszyński
2009-05-29  9:23                         ` Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
2009-05-30  0:38                       ` Alec Warner
2009-05-30 15:08                         ` Joe Peterson
2009-05-28 18:49                   ` Patrick Lauer
2009-05-28 19:11                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-29  2:41                   ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2009-05-29  2:12                 ` Ryan Hill
2009-05-29 21:49                   ` Patrick Lauer
2009-05-30 20:56                     ` Ryan Hill
2009-05-31  1:57                       ` Richard Freeman
2009-05-31  9:25                         ` Thilo Bangert
2009-05-31 10:57                           ` Duncan
2009-05-31 22:01                             ` Richard Freeman
2009-06-02  8:20                             ` Steven J Long
2009-06-02 12:53                               ` Duncan
2009-06-04 14:11                                 ` Steven J Long
2009-06-02 15:38                               ` Richard Freeman
2009-06-03 10:43                                 ` Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
2009-06-03 18:23                                   ` Richard Freeman
2009-05-28  5:46         ` [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for May 28 Tiziano Müller
2009-05-28  7:23           ` Patrick Lauer
2009-05-28  9:35             ` Tiziano Müller
2009-05-28 17:56           ` Roy Bamford
2009-05-28 18:04             ` Ciaran McCreesh [this message]
2009-05-28 18:30               ` Patrick Lauer
2009-05-28 18:48                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-28 19:19                   ` Patrick Lauer
2009-05-28 19:26                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-28 19:42                       ` Josh Saddler
2009-05-28 19:43                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-28 19:42                       ` Roy Bamford
2009-05-28 19:54                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-28 21:31                           ` Roy Bamford
2009-05-28 19:46                       ` Patrick Lauer
2009-05-28 19:52                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-28 20:56                           ` Patrick Lauer
2009-05-28 21:09                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-27 20:57     ` Joe Peterson
2009-05-27 21:58       ` Patrick Lauer
2009-05-27 22:12         ` Piotr Jaroszyński
2009-05-27 22:33           ` Patrick Lauer
2009-05-27 23:10             ` Piotr Jaroszyński
2009-05-28  6:36               ` Patrick Lauer
2009-06-01 20:42     ` Tiziano Müller
2009-05-28 13:11   ` Ferris McCormick

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