From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-dev+bounces-36125-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>) id 1M7Car-00069g-OU for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 21 May 2009 18:02:14 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6639DE030B; Thu, 21 May 2009 18:01:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-fx0-f219.google.com (mail-fx0-f219.google.com [209.85.220.219]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CEA7E030B for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Thu, 21 May 2009 18:01:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm19 with SMTP id 19so1124308fxm.34 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Thu, 21 May 2009 11:01:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type; bh=uC5cH084ejDhBVDzeKiyt87B16gMEp7qPKsGINmTYbw=; b=A2axO0i8Ccc5In7iCiO7PyglURBpyGvx1qP6q9O1brsrvuyQmUmqGHCl6OZEMJHe5o 3GLbAosItMr7vbyo389FvvTV7zsNjhmgDV4lIfoGYULzqy0x1FqR7tbVA+5NfP4EOmzU yGTswtH8j6LKpYlZfOpKD9SgVnzpsgopjRqBo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type; b=YmmcNtkIaS0aUBq8NOmFs/p4o9QRLBRp6KVU+ma9M66CDOnjXE07qvNQk87ywUiRt4 Uqq9S+Rd40cWDLxqD+cVIrsaBL9WZ56uigyf0UX8VBNr+THJ9/SpZzULIn2/RhyylhsZ jdO5H1AOP7rfimk2Vc+k7+a2FyUpyiVnEq3r0= Received: by 10.86.60.15 with SMTP id i15mr2418434fga.5.1242928865609; Thu, 21 May 2009 11:01:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from snowcone (92-235-187-79.cable.ubr18.sgyl.blueyonder.co.uk [92.235.187.79]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 4sm4295132fgg.28.2009.05.21.11.01.05 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 21 May 2009 11:01:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 19:00:59 +0100 From: Ciaran McCreesh <ciaran.mccreesh@googlemail.com> To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Allow bash-4.0 features in EAPI="3" ebuilds Message-ID: <20090521190059.04de1d55@snowcone> In-Reply-To: <200905211957.55040.Arfrever@gentoo.org> References: <200905171820.27340.Arfrever@gentoo.org> <200905201912.56509.Arfrever@gentoo.org> <20090520190043.1ab9c1bf@snowcone> <200905211957.55040.Arfrever@gentoo.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.1 (GTK+ 2.14.7; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-dev+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-dev.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/Xeya07XiE/giHeS7HW2a04F"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: 0bcd728f-83f1-42b7-8769-98b01ff8d01b X-Archives-Hash: 8190fb075d218a07c385d6c89a664336 --Sig_/Xeya07XiE/giHeS7HW2a04F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 21 May 2009 19:57:49 +0200 Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis <Arfrever@gentoo.org> wrote: > > We always have to assume that there might not be an up to date > > cache. The Gentoo rsync mirrors do not always ship up to date cache, > > particularly if someone's just changed a widely used eclass. >=20 > Users can wait an hour and run `emerge --sync` again. ...but that's not what happens. Instead, the users get their screen spammed with annoying messages, get confused and run to bugzilla in droves. This just takes us right back to the bad old days when changing anything would result in mass user confusion. The whole 'EAPI' thing wasn't an arbitrary whim. --=20 Ciaran McCreesh --Sig_/Xeya07XiE/giHeS7HW2a04F Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkoVlt4ACgkQ96zL6DUtXhHzmQCfSGQUGtDvDL312S977Frsh6da D2IAmwVOAHti3JiuFj9TN2TbO5XK1kvo =jFQ0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/Xeya07XiE/giHeS7HW2a04F--