From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1M64Ca-0005Zg-1e for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 18 May 2009 14:52:28 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 02BCFE032D; Mon, 18 May 2009 14:52:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-fx0-f219.google.com (mail-fx0-f219.google.com [209.85.220.219]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B886FE032D for ; Mon, 18 May 2009 14:52:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm19 with SMTP id 19so3100406fxm.34 for ; Mon, 18 May 2009 07:52:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type; bh=7/TmEPFMlpF4GjQVX6EStSF5SW7IBfAt12N+K9EJj6I=; b=VNhIStfCb1vGmdmkK8+mvBB2CdX1tmm8p5w1s15xq7GaZJKdA/O+cYv9ZucvqPmQEV xWD/8xWggsmf/VrM6AIUWcsj0YaDlwLrlTf0FwfmMbHw1K7O4V0sT0z2AnCXdAZKKPKD 0aERjUsEYDli9tCaXfwsvBjioq1/AfOFUziQk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type; b=WW5gYA+lLosUk+3c7y2AR9jsEM+tl7DsxiuHmdZSKZm65OQqDw3TG/Ee8GNV4IJKCm caRwyMFLJ3sDoUWm1kxFtVtfrKx7dY0z8JEyRlD5DaIqYJVwxpOQrLD4LD3PlBu8HjoB BA3mphMVslgNWRlpIE68DsVwzIIL9YWcoCwwQ= Received: by 10.103.192.2 with SMTP id u2mr4114032mup.31.1242658346067; Mon, 18 May 2009 07:52:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from snowmobile (92-235-187-79.cable.ubr18.sgyl.blueyonder.co.uk [92.235.187.79]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e9sm216269muf.2.2009.05.18.07.52.25 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 18 May 2009 07:52:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 15:52:19 +0100 From: Ciaran McCreesh To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] blocking mixed versions of split QT libraries Message-ID: <20090518155219.7ed0b28d@snowmobile> In-Reply-To: <4A117518.5080604@gentoo.org> References: <225000070905180304u49e9a50btcc0f8935368afc03@mail.gmail.com> <20090518152155.7c856095@snowmobile> <4A117518.5080604@gentoo.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.1 (GTK+ 2.16.1; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/CRiPDi1eJ_Ei=3Gv__FW7dx"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: 800ad534-9965-4159-9e3a-1412118b7ab9 X-Archives-Hash: a68643cf804d71a277e5cf381a2b634d --Sig_/CRiPDi1eJ_Ei=3Gv__FW7dx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 18 May 2009 17:47:52 +0300 Petteri R=C3=A4ty wrote: > Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > On Mon, 18 May 2009 13:04:27 +0300 > > Alex Alexander wrote: > >> Unfortunately we've got reports from paludis users stating that > >> they can't update QT from qting-edge anymore. > >=20 > > Paludis treats blocks as strong, the way Portage used to and the way > > PMS defined them until we had to retroactively change it to allow > > Portage's newer behaviour... >=20 > Unfortunate but what does this have to do with the original question? > EAPI 2 moved to the new soft behavior and as far as I know all qt > ebuilds are EAPI 2. The definition of soft behaviour allows soft blockers to be treated identically to hard blockers. We had to do it this way because Portage's rules for soft blockers are too fuzzy and arbitrary to turn into a formal specification -- they were a "code first, think later" solution with which we can't do anything useful. --=20 Ciaran McCreesh --Sig_/CRiPDi1eJ_Ei=3Gv__FW7dx Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkoRdiYACgkQ96zL6DUtXhF3AQCfRB4suSqngxNfuyUm3/frDlM2 U9QAn2isWweiUL0naUcuw3PI7IfOqfXq =RYg5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/CRiPDi1eJ_Ei=3Gv__FW7dx--