From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1M5nms-0004CB-TX for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 17 May 2009 21:20:51 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 927A9E0430; Sun, 17 May 2009 21:20:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.155]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3718AE0430 for ; Sun, 17 May 2009 21:20:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 13so1063389fge.14 for ; Sun, 17 May 2009 14:20:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type; bh=elu6nZ3er1on3HHtdlPc7igGxnXh6jK62KRW7Gq7GDA=; b=PCSCwW2MaYh1pWxT2xXk/zG+fDa0R3EQOBhsZ1QMzeCq99xWuwjq3t1Rq5yonGXqfs vOKjdpaMkyXjWPetEHqwzeuzlUhzJWDf1YoHId7HatMy23vlLnngIbymXmVPs3J0tMK1 PCoIMaWFWki1EhD7OOJnVfpI1NbvkBqTqendM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type; b=wehyGyEBmEI1zaRoAkEOZ5l/QcPHyoFjVMB6KAnAne/u1qMacjQYSiuqBGbUlEPH5I 5bg+Dw4EsO43sA3+wIJ/4LWvdSnHfUIAy/72o9BVyzrVQ39M+35dyqL4YgQchhCLjAPm F1yRaUZV3ob2K7bCK0tzC9LIrrD2xb3egPWVo= Received: by 10.86.91.10 with SMTP id o10mr6074796fgb.13.1242595222577; Sun, 17 May 2009 14:20:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from snowmobile (92-235-187-79.cable.ubr18.sgyl.blueyonder.co.uk [92.235.187.79]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 4sm6549334fgg.18.2009.05.17.14.20.22 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 17 May 2009 14:20:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 22:20:16 +0100 From: Ciaran McCreesh To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 55 updated Message-ID: <20090517222016.3164b564@snowmobile> In-Reply-To: <4A107F05.7020001@gentoo.org> References: <7c612fc60905170920k22189731i2540514e24e60959@mail.gmail.com> <18960.18295.65849.57779@a1ihome1.kph.uni-mainz.de> <4A104BCE.7000001@gentoo.org> <4A107F05.7020001@gentoo.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.1 (GTK+ 2.16.1; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/vua_rmI3/SRObKzk811n1nB"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: 71986c7d-65a0-49e8-a319-60e5a8b58ab4 X-Archives-Hash: a6930e0a631a5310a2a2e218e705736b --Sig_/vua_rmI3/SRObKzk811n1nB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 17 May 2009 23:17:57 +0200 Ben de Groot wrote: > 1. "Incompatible change of inherit (e.g. make it look in the package > dir too)" > A case would need to be made, in my opinion, as to why we would wish > to allow this in the first place. The current inherit behavior with > eclasses in a central place works well enough. So I think we can > disregard this. There are already horrible hacks in the tree to get per-package 'eclasses'. That's a clear sign there's something lacking. > 2. "Add new global scope functions in any sane way" > This is a valid use case, as seen by the eapi-2 update. But the way > this is currently handled by portage (advising to upgrade the package > manager) works. So I don't see a need to change the file extension for > this reason. It means we can't start using those new global scope functions until we're sure that everyone's going to be upgraded, because users get extremely upset if they start seeing that kind of message. > 3. "Extend versioning rules in an EAPI - for example, addition of the > scm suffix - GLEP54 [1] or allowing more sensible version formats like > 1-rc1, 1-alpha etc. to match upstream more closely." > Apart from GLEP54, I believe our versioning scheme works reasonably > well. I don't see any need to match upstream more closely. I'd rather > like to keep the more uniform way of handling suffixes like rc and > alpha, that we have now. Please explain why 1.2_rc3 is legal but 1.2-rc3 is not. --=20 Ciaran McCreesh --Sig_/vua_rmI3/SRObKzk811n1nB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkoQf5MACgkQ96zL6DUtXhGXFwCcCCXr3rUsFiY/mvz9phIivFc/ yqYAoItKnYOUiQhFWKq/gP5VaLD9Mj4l =J1dH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/vua_rmI3/SRObKzk811n1nB--