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From: Ciaran McCreesh <ciaran.mccreesh@googlemail.com>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 55 updated
Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 21:20:56 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090517212056.15e4ad52@snowmobile> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090517215740.41069a04@gromit>

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On Sun, 17 May 2009 21:57:40 +0200
Thomas de Grenier de Latour <tom.gl@free.fr> wrote:
> On 2009/05/17, Ciaran McCreesh <ciaran.mccreesh@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > You don't define it quite like that. You define it by mapping EAPI X
> > _p onto super-EAPI _p0, and EAPI Y _p onto super_EAPI _pINFINITY.
> > That way the ordering's well defined.
> 
> I understand the idea, but I still don't think it's viable to allow
> such definitions, because there are too many contexts in which we
> manipulate pure version strings, without decorating them with an EAPI,
> and without reference to a concrete package from which we could get
> it. Take ">=bar/foo-1_p" as an "emerge" command line argument for
> instance, is my foo-1_p1.ebuild a candidate?

Conceptually, you'd define a 'user' EAPI for those things, so you can
define it any way you want (including in such a way that the _p thing
works both ways depending upon the EAPI used for creating the thing
you're comparing it to -- for the user EAPI, you'd define it as being
_pUNSPECIFIED rather than _p0 or _pINFINITY and use the other side of
the comparison to decide the result). But yes, if you do something
silly like your example, things get very complicated.

> > > As a consequence, the algorithm for picking best version of a
> > > package can be as simple as the following:
> > >  1- among all ebuilds filenames, filter out the ones with
> > > unrecognized version string
> > 
> > You don't know whether you recognise the version string until you
> > know the EAPI, though.
> 
> Under my previously stated restrictions, you know:
>  - which one can be rejected for sure (the ones not recognized by any
>    of your implemented EAPI).
>  - how to correctly order the remaining ones (even the incorrect ones
>    which may remain and would be rejected only at step 4), and thus
>    where to start to find the "best" correct one.

Your previously stated restrictions are too strong, though. And when it
turns out a future change breaks those restrictions, we'd be back to
yet another extension change.

-- 
Ciaran McCreesh

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-05-17 20:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-05-17 15:56 [gentoo-dev] GLEP 55 updated Piotr Jaroszyński
2009-05-17 16:06 ` Peter Alfredsen
2009-05-17 17:24   ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2009-05-17 18:47     ` Peter Alfredsen
2009-05-17 16:20 ` Denis Dupeyron
2009-05-17 17:20   ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-05-17 17:39     ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2009-05-17 17:43       ` Markos Chandras
2009-05-17 17:44       ` Joe Peterson
2009-05-17 21:17       ` Ben de Groot
2009-05-17 21:20         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-17 22:04           ` Joe Peterson
2009-05-18 15:07             ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J Long
2009-05-18 15:16               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-18 15:28                 ` versionator.eclass terminator, was " Jeroen Roovers
2009-05-18 15:33                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-18 15:42                   ` Robert Buchholz
2009-05-18 15:45                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-18 15:30                 ` Joe Peterson
2009-05-17 22:08           ` [gentoo-dev] " Ben de Groot
2009-05-17 22:11             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-17 22:54               ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-05-17 22:58                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-17 23:11                   ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-05-17 23:16                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-17 23:30                       ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-05-17 23:33                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-17 23:43                           ` [gentoo-dev] GLEP 54 and hyphens in PV (was: GLEP 55 updated) Ulrich Mueller
2009-05-17 23:49                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-18  4:59                               ` [gentoo-dev] GLEP 54 and hyphens in PV Ulrich Mueller
2009-05-18 14:13                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-19 17:01                                   ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-05-19 17:59                                     ` Joe Peterson
2009-05-19 19:01                                     ` Kent Fredric
2009-05-28  7:59                                     ` Tiziano Müller
2009-05-28 10:54                                       ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-05-28 11:10                                         ` Piotr Jaroszyński
2009-05-28 15:13                                           ` Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
2009-05-28 15:55                                             ` Piotr Jaroszyński
2009-05-17 22:15             ` [gentoo-dev] GLEP 55 updated David Leverton
2009-05-18 15:28               ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J Long
2009-05-18 15:58                 ` David Leverton
2009-05-17 17:36   ` [gentoo-dev] " Joe Peterson
2009-05-17 18:15 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ryan Hill
2009-05-17 18:17   ` Piotr Jaroszyński
2009-05-17 18:18   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-17 18:59     ` Ryan Hill
2009-05-17 18:40 ` [gentoo-dev] " Thomas de Grenier de Latour
2009-05-17 18:47   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-17 19:57     ` Thomas de Grenier de Latour
2009-05-17 20:20       ` Ciaran McCreesh [this message]
2009-05-17 18:57 ` Robert Buchholz
2009-05-17 19:31   ` Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2009-05-17 19:33   ` Piotr Jaroszyński
2009-05-17 19:25 ` [gentoo-dev] " Piotr Jaroszyński

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