From: Ciaran McCreesh <ciaran.mccreesh@googlemail.com>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] The fallacies of GLEP55
Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 00:48:42 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090517004842.61834397@snowmobile> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A0F4EBC.5020706@gmail.com>
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On Sat, 16 May 2009 16:39:40 -0700
Nick Fortino <nfortino@gmail.com> wrote:
> Given the above, it should be clear that any argument which states
> some future improvement to the ebuild format will be impossible based
> upon making the wrong choice between proposal 1 and proposal 2 must be
> invalid, as they have the same expressive power. Note that allowable
> algorithms for which the proof works includes caching and version
> ordering as well as the simple execution of the ebuild.
Unfortunately, your argument is entirely wrong, as can be illustrated
by a simple counter-example that you would already know about, had you
read the GLEP or the thread.
With EAPI in a fixed format, it is impossible to allow extensions to the
version format in future EAPIs. Even given a fixed format and a constant
extension, adding foo-1.23-rc1.ebuild will cause breakage, but adding
foo-1.23-rc1.ebuild-4 will not.
This has already been covered at length, and is explained in the GLEP.
Why did you disregard this when posting your 'proof'?
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Ciaran McCreesh
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Thread overview: 113+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-05-14 18:06 [gentoo-dev] The fallacies of GLEP55 Patrick Lauer
2009-05-14 18:39 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-14 19:05 ` Patrick Lauer
2009-05-14 19:11 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-14 19:17 ` RB
2009-05-14 19:20 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-14 19:24 ` Patrick Lauer
2009-05-14 19:33 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-14 19:16 ` Robert Bridge
2009-05-15 19:29 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J Long
2009-05-14 19:09 ` [gentoo-dev] " Tomáš Chvátal
2009-05-14 19:17 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-15 1:42 ` George Prowse
2009-05-15 7:30 ` David Leverton
2009-05-15 10:44 ` Richard Freeman
2009-05-15 16:16 ` Robert R. Russell
2009-05-15 16:29 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-15 19:12 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J Long
2009-05-15 19:17 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-15 20:06 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J Long
2009-05-15 20:13 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-24 20:53 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J Long
2009-05-24 21:10 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-15 20:32 ` [gentoo-dev] " David Leverton
2009-05-24 20:40 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J Long
2009-05-24 20:58 ` David Leverton
2009-05-14 19:06 ` [gentoo-dev] " David Leverton
2009-05-14 19:15 ` Jeremy Olexa
2009-05-14 19:24 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-14 20:03 ` Ben de Groot
2009-05-14 21:16 ` Peter Alfredsen
2009-05-14 21:49 ` William Hubbs
2009-05-14 21:53 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-14 22:44 ` Patrick Lauer
2009-05-15 18:58 ` Arun Raghavan
2009-05-15 19:11 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-26 14:06 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J Long
2009-05-15 19:43 ` [gentoo-dev] " William Hubbs
2009-05-15 19:49 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 9:27 ` Tobias Klausmann
2009-05-16 11:33 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2009-05-26 14:01 ` Steven J Long
2009-05-16 14:12 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 14:50 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J Long
2009-05-16 14:57 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 15:15 ` Richard Freeman
2009-05-16 15:20 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 15:34 ` Richard Freeman
2009-05-16 15:36 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 15:32 ` [gentoo-dev] " Tobias Klausmann
2009-05-16 15:34 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 15:43 ` Tobias Klausmann
2009-05-16 15:49 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 15:55 ` Tobias Klausmann
2009-05-16 15:57 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 16:15 ` Tobias Klausmann
2009-05-16 16:19 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 16:31 ` Tobias Klausmann
2009-05-16 16:38 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 16:54 ` Tobias Klausmann
2009-05-16 16:58 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 17:13 ` Tobias Klausmann
2009-05-16 17:53 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-17 4:54 ` Richard Freeman
2009-05-16 16:35 ` Arun Raghavan
2009-05-16 16:39 ` Thomas Anderson
2009-05-16 16:44 ` Arun Raghavan
2009-05-16 16:47 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 16:54 ` Arun Raghavan
2009-05-16 16:59 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 17:09 ` Arun Raghavan
2009-05-16 17:55 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 19:12 ` Arun Raghavan
2009-05-16 19:21 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-17 4:56 ` Arun Raghavan
2009-05-16 23:39 ` Nick Fortino
2009-05-16 23:48 ` Ciaran McCreesh [this message]
2009-05-17 1:17 ` Nick Fortino
2009-05-22 2:04 ` Robert R. Russell
2009-05-17 0:31 ` Ravi Pinjala
2009-05-17 4:35 ` Richard Freeman
2009-05-17 11:40 ` Thomas Anderson
2009-05-17 12:00 ` Arun Raghavan
2009-05-17 0:35 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2009-05-17 0:50 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-17 1:58 ` Duncan
2009-05-17 4:43 ` Richard Freeman
2009-05-17 7:29 ` Patrick Lauer
2009-05-17 11:14 ` David Leverton
2009-05-17 7:40 ` Tiziano Müller
2009-05-17 8:01 ` Patrick Lauer
2009-05-16 16:39 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 18:38 ` Robert Buchholz
2009-05-16 18:42 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 9:27 ` Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
2009-05-16 9:59 ` David Leverton
2009-05-16 11:11 ` Ben de Groot
2009-05-16 18:10 ` William Hubbs
2009-05-16 18:14 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 18:22 ` William Hubbs
2009-05-16 12:14 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2009-05-16 14:15 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 17:28 ` David Leverton
2009-05-16 20:00 ` Joe Peterson
2009-05-16 20:11 ` Denis Dupeyron
2009-05-16 20:13 ` Denis Dupeyron
2009-05-17 8:29 ` [gentoo-dev] " Alistair Bush
2009-05-17 13:04 ` Richard Freeman
2009-05-16 21:58 ` [gentoo-dev] " Mark Bateman
2009-05-16 22:06 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-17 4:07 ` Mark Bateman
2009-05-17 16:35 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-17 16:54 ` Patrick Lauer
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