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From: Tobias Klausmann <klausman@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] The fallacies of GLEP55
Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 18:15:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090516161558.GA9841@eric.schwarzvogel.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090516165752.7d0b9fdc@snowmobile>

Hi! 

On Sat, 16 May 2009, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> Tobias Klausmann <klausman@gentoo.org> wrote:
> > > Yes, those. The current rules include some pointless arbitrary
> > > restrictions that are only there for historical reasons and that
> > > mean people have to mess with convoluted MY_PV things.
> > 
> > Still: a sane spec for those plus a sane spec for inside-the-file
> > EAPI specs can be done with/during *one* extension change. 
> 
> GLEP 55's just one extension change: it moves from .ebuild
> to .ebuild-EAPI.

So we're not talking about .ebuild-2 for EAPI=2, .ebuild-3 for
EAPI=3 etc? That would just be silly and it was the first idea I
got when I saw the proposal.

Also, I think there might be better options for the new
extensions (.gbuild?, just a random idea).

Aside from that, one idea that came to me recently was to specify
per tree what kind of files (version-format-wise, EAPI
elsewhere[0]) a PM has to expect. Tree distributors (Gentoo
itself, other similar distros, overlays... ) would be Providing
that information along a similar route as profiles/repo_name.
This would also reduce the amount of mixing and matching version
formats (something undesirable, if you ask me). It would also
make it easier to take a look at historical (snapshots of)
repositories.

[0] I see EAPI specification and version-format spec as separate
issues.

> > Any further features that mandate a change in filename format?
> > Pile them on. 
> 
> There probably will be, and we don't know what they all are yet.
> Unfortunately we can't see the future.

I meant further as in "not discussed yet".

Regards,
Tobias
-- 
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  reply	other threads:[~2009-05-16 16:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 113+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-05-14 18:06 [gentoo-dev] The fallacies of GLEP55 Patrick Lauer
2009-05-14 18:39 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-14 19:05   ` Patrick Lauer
2009-05-14 19:11     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-14 19:17       ` RB
2009-05-14 19:20         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-14 19:24           ` Patrick Lauer
2009-05-14 19:33             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-14 19:16     ` Robert Bridge
2009-05-15 19:29       ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J Long
2009-05-14 19:09   ` [gentoo-dev] " Tomáš Chvátal
2009-05-14 19:17     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-15  1:42   ` George Prowse
2009-05-15  7:30     ` David Leverton
2009-05-15 10:44   ` Richard Freeman
2009-05-15 16:16     ` Robert R. Russell
2009-05-15 16:29       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-15 19:12       ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J Long
2009-05-15 19:17         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-15 20:06           ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J Long
2009-05-15 20:13             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-24 20:53               ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J Long
2009-05-24 21:10                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-15 20:32             ` [gentoo-dev] " David Leverton
2009-05-24 20:40               ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J Long
2009-05-24 20:58                 ` David Leverton
2009-05-14 19:06 ` [gentoo-dev] " David Leverton
2009-05-14 19:15   ` Jeremy Olexa
2009-05-14 19:24     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-14 20:03 ` Ben de Groot
2009-05-14 21:16   ` Peter Alfredsen
2009-05-14 21:49     ` William Hubbs
2009-05-14 21:53       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-14 22:44         ` Patrick Lauer
2009-05-15 18:58           ` Arun Raghavan
2009-05-15 19:11             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-26 14:06               ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J Long
2009-05-15 19:43         ` [gentoo-dev] " William Hubbs
2009-05-15 19:49           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16  9:27             ` Tobias Klausmann
2009-05-16 11:33               ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2009-05-26 14:01                 ` Steven J Long
2009-05-16 14:12               ` [gentoo-dev] " Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 14:50                 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J Long
2009-05-16 14:57                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 15:15                     ` Richard Freeman
2009-05-16 15:20                       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 15:34                         ` Richard Freeman
2009-05-16 15:36                           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 15:32                 ` [gentoo-dev] " Tobias Klausmann
2009-05-16 15:34                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 15:43                     ` Tobias Klausmann
2009-05-16 15:49                       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 15:55                         ` Tobias Klausmann
2009-05-16 15:57                           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 16:15                             ` Tobias Klausmann [this message]
2009-05-16 16:19                               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 16:31                                 ` Tobias Klausmann
2009-05-16 16:38                                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 16:54                                     ` Tobias Klausmann
2009-05-16 16:58                                       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 17:13                                         ` Tobias Klausmann
2009-05-16 17:53                                           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-17  4:54                                     ` Richard Freeman
2009-05-16 16:35                         ` Arun Raghavan
2009-05-16 16:39                           ` Thomas Anderson
2009-05-16 16:44                             ` Arun Raghavan
2009-05-16 16:47                               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 16:54                                 ` Arun Raghavan
2009-05-16 16:59                                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 17:09                                     ` Arun Raghavan
2009-05-16 17:55                                       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 19:12                                         ` Arun Raghavan
2009-05-16 19:21                                           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-17  4:56                                             ` Arun Raghavan
2009-05-16 23:39                                         ` Nick Fortino
2009-05-16 23:48                                           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-17  1:17                                             ` Nick Fortino
2009-05-22  2:04                                               ` Robert R. Russell
2009-05-17  0:31                                           ` Ravi Pinjala
2009-05-17  4:35                                             ` Richard Freeman
2009-05-17 11:40                                               ` Thomas Anderson
2009-05-17 12:00                                                 ` Arun Raghavan
2009-05-17  0:35                                           ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2009-05-17  0:50                                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-17  1:58                                               ` Duncan
2009-05-17  4:43                                                 ` Richard Freeman
2009-05-17  7:29                                                   ` Patrick Lauer
2009-05-17 11:14                                                     ` David Leverton
2009-05-17  7:40                                               ` Tiziano Müller
2009-05-17  8:01                                                 ` Patrick Lauer
2009-05-16 16:39                           ` [gentoo-dev] " Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 18:38                             ` Robert Buchholz
2009-05-16 18:42                               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16  9:27             ` Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
2009-05-16  9:59               ` David Leverton
2009-05-16 11:11                 ` Ben de Groot
2009-05-16 18:10                   ` William Hubbs
2009-05-16 18:14                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 18:22                       ` William Hubbs
2009-05-16 12:14                 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2009-05-16 14:15                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 17:28                   ` David Leverton
2009-05-16 20:00                     ` Joe Peterson
2009-05-16 20:11                       ` Denis Dupeyron
2009-05-16 20:13                         ` Denis Dupeyron
2009-05-17  8:29   ` [gentoo-dev] " Alistair Bush
2009-05-17 13:04     ` Richard Freeman
2009-05-16 21:58 ` [gentoo-dev] " Mark Bateman
2009-05-16 22:06   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-17  4:07     ` Mark Bateman
2009-05-17 16:35       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-17 16:54         ` Patrick Lauer

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