From: Tobias Klausmann <klausman@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] The fallacies of GLEP55
Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 18:15:58 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090516161558.GA9841@eric.schwarzvogel.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090516165752.7d0b9fdc@snowmobile>
Hi!
On Sat, 16 May 2009, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> Tobias Klausmann <klausman@gentoo.org> wrote:
> > > Yes, those. The current rules include some pointless arbitrary
> > > restrictions that are only there for historical reasons and that
> > > mean people have to mess with convoluted MY_PV things.
> >
> > Still: a sane spec for those plus a sane spec for inside-the-file
> > EAPI specs can be done with/during *one* extension change.
>
> GLEP 55's just one extension change: it moves from .ebuild
> to .ebuild-EAPI.
So we're not talking about .ebuild-2 for EAPI=2, .ebuild-3 for
EAPI=3 etc? That would just be silly and it was the first idea I
got when I saw the proposal.
Also, I think there might be better options for the new
extensions (.gbuild?, just a random idea).
Aside from that, one idea that came to me recently was to specify
per tree what kind of files (version-format-wise, EAPI
elsewhere[0]) a PM has to expect. Tree distributors (Gentoo
itself, other similar distros, overlays... ) would be Providing
that information along a similar route as profiles/repo_name.
This would also reduce the amount of mixing and matching version
formats (something undesirable, if you ask me). It would also
make it easier to take a look at historical (snapshots of)
repositories.
[0] I see EAPI specification and version-format spec as separate
issues.
> > Any further features that mandate a change in filename format?
> > Pile them on.
>
> There probably will be, and we don't know what they all are yet.
> Unfortunately we can't see the future.
I meant further as in "not discussed yet".
Regards,
Tobias
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Thread overview: 113+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-05-14 18:06 [gentoo-dev] The fallacies of GLEP55 Patrick Lauer
2009-05-14 18:39 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-14 19:05 ` Patrick Lauer
2009-05-14 19:11 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-14 19:17 ` RB
2009-05-14 19:20 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-14 19:24 ` Patrick Lauer
2009-05-14 19:33 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-14 19:16 ` Robert Bridge
2009-05-15 19:29 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J Long
2009-05-14 19:09 ` [gentoo-dev] " Tomáš Chvátal
2009-05-14 19:17 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-15 1:42 ` George Prowse
2009-05-15 7:30 ` David Leverton
2009-05-15 10:44 ` Richard Freeman
2009-05-15 16:16 ` Robert R. Russell
2009-05-15 16:29 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-15 19:12 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J Long
2009-05-15 19:17 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-15 20:06 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J Long
2009-05-15 20:13 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-24 20:53 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J Long
2009-05-24 21:10 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-15 20:32 ` [gentoo-dev] " David Leverton
2009-05-24 20:40 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J Long
2009-05-24 20:58 ` David Leverton
2009-05-14 19:06 ` [gentoo-dev] " David Leverton
2009-05-14 19:15 ` Jeremy Olexa
2009-05-14 19:24 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-14 20:03 ` Ben de Groot
2009-05-14 21:16 ` Peter Alfredsen
2009-05-14 21:49 ` William Hubbs
2009-05-14 21:53 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-14 22:44 ` Patrick Lauer
2009-05-15 18:58 ` Arun Raghavan
2009-05-15 19:11 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-26 14:06 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J Long
2009-05-15 19:43 ` [gentoo-dev] " William Hubbs
2009-05-15 19:49 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 9:27 ` Tobias Klausmann
2009-05-16 11:33 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2009-05-26 14:01 ` Steven J Long
2009-05-16 14:12 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 14:50 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J Long
2009-05-16 14:57 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 15:15 ` Richard Freeman
2009-05-16 15:20 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 15:34 ` Richard Freeman
2009-05-16 15:36 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 15:32 ` [gentoo-dev] " Tobias Klausmann
2009-05-16 15:34 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 15:43 ` Tobias Klausmann
2009-05-16 15:49 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 15:55 ` Tobias Klausmann
2009-05-16 15:57 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 16:15 ` Tobias Klausmann [this message]
2009-05-16 16:19 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 16:31 ` Tobias Klausmann
2009-05-16 16:38 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 16:54 ` Tobias Klausmann
2009-05-16 16:58 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 17:13 ` Tobias Klausmann
2009-05-16 17:53 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-17 4:54 ` Richard Freeman
2009-05-16 16:35 ` Arun Raghavan
2009-05-16 16:39 ` Thomas Anderson
2009-05-16 16:44 ` Arun Raghavan
2009-05-16 16:47 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 16:54 ` Arun Raghavan
2009-05-16 16:59 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 17:09 ` Arun Raghavan
2009-05-16 17:55 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 19:12 ` Arun Raghavan
2009-05-16 19:21 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-17 4:56 ` Arun Raghavan
2009-05-16 23:39 ` Nick Fortino
2009-05-16 23:48 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-17 1:17 ` Nick Fortino
2009-05-22 2:04 ` Robert R. Russell
2009-05-17 0:31 ` Ravi Pinjala
2009-05-17 4:35 ` Richard Freeman
2009-05-17 11:40 ` Thomas Anderson
2009-05-17 12:00 ` Arun Raghavan
2009-05-17 0:35 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2009-05-17 0:50 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-17 1:58 ` Duncan
2009-05-17 4:43 ` Richard Freeman
2009-05-17 7:29 ` Patrick Lauer
2009-05-17 11:14 ` David Leverton
2009-05-17 7:40 ` Tiziano Müller
2009-05-17 8:01 ` Patrick Lauer
2009-05-16 16:39 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 18:38 ` Robert Buchholz
2009-05-16 18:42 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 9:27 ` Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
2009-05-16 9:59 ` David Leverton
2009-05-16 11:11 ` Ben de Groot
2009-05-16 18:10 ` William Hubbs
2009-05-16 18:14 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 18:22 ` William Hubbs
2009-05-16 12:14 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2009-05-16 14:15 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 17:28 ` David Leverton
2009-05-16 20:00 ` Joe Peterson
2009-05-16 20:11 ` Denis Dupeyron
2009-05-16 20:13 ` Denis Dupeyron
2009-05-17 8:29 ` [gentoo-dev] " Alistair Bush
2009-05-17 13:04 ` Richard Freeman
2009-05-16 21:58 ` [gentoo-dev] " Mark Bateman
2009-05-16 22:06 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-17 4:07 ` Mark Bateman
2009-05-17 16:35 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-17 16:54 ` Patrick Lauer
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