From: Tobias Klausmann <klausman@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] The fallacies of GLEP55
Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 17:32:24 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090516153224.GA4964@eric.schwarzvogel.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090516151216.15efc792@snowmobile>
Hi!
On Sat, 16 May 2009, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Sat, 16 May 2009 11:27:10 +0200
> Tobias Klausmann <klausman@gentoo.org> wrote:
> > Change the spec, then.
>
> If we change the spec, we can't do anything with the change until we're
> absolutely sure that everyone's updated both their ebuilds and their
> package manager for it.
The change the extension *once*, and make an EAPI spec at the top
of the file for that file format.
I'd rather have the extension change once, with pain, than with
every EAPI change. My opinion is that reflecting the EAPI in the
file name is a very, very Bad Idea.
> > Actually, I personally would prefer taking it out of the
> > parsed-by-bash part entirely. Add it as a shebang-like line at
> > the top:
> >
> > #EAPI-1
> >
> > as the first or second line. Allowing it on the second line
> > allows you to later bolt on a true shebang-line if you should so
> > desire. Only having to look at the first two lines makes finding
> > it out easier (note that I don't call that parsing on purpose).
>
> Would mean we'd have to change every existing ebuild everywhere.
No, it means we have to change every ebuild of which we claim
that it works that way. Versioned file structures *without*
changing the extension have been done and they have worked.
Yes, there may be pain along the way. But that is true no matter
which route we go.
What people prefer is in no small way tied to the amount of pain
they expect from a given solution. And they're right to do so.
Regards,
Tobias
--
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Thread overview: 113+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-05-14 18:06 [gentoo-dev] The fallacies of GLEP55 Patrick Lauer
2009-05-14 18:39 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-14 19:05 ` Patrick Lauer
2009-05-14 19:11 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-14 19:17 ` RB
2009-05-14 19:20 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-14 19:24 ` Patrick Lauer
2009-05-14 19:33 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-14 19:16 ` Robert Bridge
2009-05-15 19:29 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J Long
2009-05-14 19:09 ` [gentoo-dev] " Tomáš Chvátal
2009-05-14 19:17 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-15 1:42 ` George Prowse
2009-05-15 7:30 ` David Leverton
2009-05-15 10:44 ` Richard Freeman
2009-05-15 16:16 ` Robert R. Russell
2009-05-15 16:29 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-15 19:12 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J Long
2009-05-15 19:17 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-15 20:06 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J Long
2009-05-15 20:13 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-24 20:53 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J Long
2009-05-24 21:10 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-15 20:32 ` [gentoo-dev] " David Leverton
2009-05-24 20:40 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J Long
2009-05-24 20:58 ` David Leverton
2009-05-14 19:06 ` [gentoo-dev] " David Leverton
2009-05-14 19:15 ` Jeremy Olexa
2009-05-14 19:24 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-14 20:03 ` Ben de Groot
2009-05-14 21:16 ` Peter Alfredsen
2009-05-14 21:49 ` William Hubbs
2009-05-14 21:53 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-14 22:44 ` Patrick Lauer
2009-05-15 18:58 ` Arun Raghavan
2009-05-15 19:11 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-26 14:06 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J Long
2009-05-15 19:43 ` [gentoo-dev] " William Hubbs
2009-05-15 19:49 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 9:27 ` Tobias Klausmann
2009-05-16 11:33 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2009-05-26 14:01 ` Steven J Long
2009-05-16 14:12 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 14:50 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J Long
2009-05-16 14:57 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 15:15 ` Richard Freeman
2009-05-16 15:20 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 15:34 ` Richard Freeman
2009-05-16 15:36 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 15:32 ` Tobias Klausmann [this message]
2009-05-16 15:34 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 15:43 ` Tobias Klausmann
2009-05-16 15:49 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 15:55 ` Tobias Klausmann
2009-05-16 15:57 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 16:15 ` Tobias Klausmann
2009-05-16 16:19 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 16:31 ` Tobias Klausmann
2009-05-16 16:38 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 16:54 ` Tobias Klausmann
2009-05-16 16:58 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 17:13 ` Tobias Klausmann
2009-05-16 17:53 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-17 4:54 ` Richard Freeman
2009-05-16 16:35 ` Arun Raghavan
2009-05-16 16:39 ` Thomas Anderson
2009-05-16 16:44 ` Arun Raghavan
2009-05-16 16:47 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 16:54 ` Arun Raghavan
2009-05-16 16:59 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 17:09 ` Arun Raghavan
2009-05-16 17:55 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 19:12 ` Arun Raghavan
2009-05-16 19:21 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-17 4:56 ` Arun Raghavan
2009-05-16 23:39 ` Nick Fortino
2009-05-16 23:48 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-17 1:17 ` Nick Fortino
2009-05-22 2:04 ` Robert R. Russell
2009-05-17 0:31 ` Ravi Pinjala
2009-05-17 4:35 ` Richard Freeman
2009-05-17 11:40 ` Thomas Anderson
2009-05-17 12:00 ` Arun Raghavan
2009-05-17 0:35 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2009-05-17 0:50 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-17 1:58 ` Duncan
2009-05-17 4:43 ` Richard Freeman
2009-05-17 7:29 ` Patrick Lauer
2009-05-17 11:14 ` David Leverton
2009-05-17 7:40 ` Tiziano Müller
2009-05-17 8:01 ` Patrick Lauer
2009-05-16 16:39 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 18:38 ` Robert Buchholz
2009-05-16 18:42 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 9:27 ` Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
2009-05-16 9:59 ` David Leverton
2009-05-16 11:11 ` Ben de Groot
2009-05-16 18:10 ` William Hubbs
2009-05-16 18:14 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 18:22 ` William Hubbs
2009-05-16 12:14 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2009-05-16 14:15 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 17:28 ` David Leverton
2009-05-16 20:00 ` Joe Peterson
2009-05-16 20:11 ` Denis Dupeyron
2009-05-16 20:13 ` Denis Dupeyron
2009-05-17 8:29 ` [gentoo-dev] " Alistair Bush
2009-05-17 13:04 ` Richard Freeman
2009-05-16 21:58 ` [gentoo-dev] " Mark Bateman
2009-05-16 22:06 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-17 4:07 ` Mark Bateman
2009-05-17 16:35 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-17 16:54 ` Patrick Lauer
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