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From: Ciaran McCreesh <ciaran.mccreesh@googlemail.com>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev]  Re: Re: The fallacies of GLEP55
Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 21:13:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090515211303.509104e9@snowmobile> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1876706.o0cNKnX3bN@news.friendly-coders.info>

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On Fri, 15 May 2009 21:06:13 +0100
Steven J Long <slong@rathaus.eclipse.co.uk> wrote:
> > Before an ebuild has had its metadata generated, its EAPI is
> > unknown. At this point, the package manager assumes EAPI 0.
> >
> With the format restriction, that everyone last year seemed happy
> with, apart from the few pushing GLEP-55, this isn't an issue.

The format restriction hasn't been agreed upon, and doesn't solve the
whole problem anyway.

> If you have a use-case that actually requires more in a version
> specifier for upstream software, please present it and explain how it
> cannot be represented with the above.

Go and look at all the ebuilds using MY_PV style hacks. Group these
into "necessary because upstream are being silly" and "we're only doing
this because of some utterly arbitrary rules imposed in the early days
of Gentoo". Most are in the second camp.

> In passing, I must express bewildered amusement at the idea of a
> format with an unlimited amount of extensions.

Not what's being proposed. We're proposing giving each format its own
file extension.

-- 
Ciaran McCreesh

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-05-15 20:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 113+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-05-14 18:06 [gentoo-dev] The fallacies of GLEP55 Patrick Lauer
2009-05-14 18:39 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-14 19:05   ` Patrick Lauer
2009-05-14 19:11     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-14 19:17       ` RB
2009-05-14 19:20         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-14 19:24           ` Patrick Lauer
2009-05-14 19:33             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-14 19:16     ` Robert Bridge
2009-05-15 19:29       ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J Long
2009-05-14 19:09   ` [gentoo-dev] " Tomáš Chvátal
2009-05-14 19:17     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-15  1:42   ` George Prowse
2009-05-15  7:30     ` David Leverton
2009-05-15 10:44   ` Richard Freeman
2009-05-15 16:16     ` Robert R. Russell
2009-05-15 16:29       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-15 19:12       ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J Long
2009-05-15 19:17         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-15 20:06           ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J Long
2009-05-15 20:13             ` Ciaran McCreesh [this message]
2009-05-24 20:53               ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J Long
2009-05-24 21:10                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-15 20:32             ` [gentoo-dev] " David Leverton
2009-05-24 20:40               ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J Long
2009-05-24 20:58                 ` David Leverton
2009-05-14 19:06 ` [gentoo-dev] " David Leverton
2009-05-14 19:15   ` Jeremy Olexa
2009-05-14 19:24     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-14 20:03 ` Ben de Groot
2009-05-14 21:16   ` Peter Alfredsen
2009-05-14 21:49     ` William Hubbs
2009-05-14 21:53       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-14 22:44         ` Patrick Lauer
2009-05-15 18:58           ` Arun Raghavan
2009-05-15 19:11             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-26 14:06               ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J Long
2009-05-15 19:43         ` [gentoo-dev] " William Hubbs
2009-05-15 19:49           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16  9:27             ` Tobias Klausmann
2009-05-16 11:33               ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2009-05-26 14:01                 ` Steven J Long
2009-05-16 14:12               ` [gentoo-dev] " Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 14:50                 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J Long
2009-05-16 14:57                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 15:15                     ` Richard Freeman
2009-05-16 15:20                       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 15:34                         ` Richard Freeman
2009-05-16 15:36                           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 15:32                 ` [gentoo-dev] " Tobias Klausmann
2009-05-16 15:34                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 15:43                     ` Tobias Klausmann
2009-05-16 15:49                       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 15:55                         ` Tobias Klausmann
2009-05-16 15:57                           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 16:15                             ` Tobias Klausmann
2009-05-16 16:19                               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 16:31                                 ` Tobias Klausmann
2009-05-16 16:38                                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 16:54                                     ` Tobias Klausmann
2009-05-16 16:58                                       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 17:13                                         ` Tobias Klausmann
2009-05-16 17:53                                           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-17  4:54                                     ` Richard Freeman
2009-05-16 16:35                         ` Arun Raghavan
2009-05-16 16:39                           ` Thomas Anderson
2009-05-16 16:44                             ` Arun Raghavan
2009-05-16 16:47                               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 16:54                                 ` Arun Raghavan
2009-05-16 16:59                                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 17:09                                     ` Arun Raghavan
2009-05-16 17:55                                       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 19:12                                         ` Arun Raghavan
2009-05-16 19:21                                           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-17  4:56                                             ` Arun Raghavan
2009-05-16 23:39                                         ` Nick Fortino
2009-05-16 23:48                                           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-17  1:17                                             ` Nick Fortino
2009-05-22  2:04                                               ` Robert R. Russell
2009-05-17  0:31                                           ` Ravi Pinjala
2009-05-17  4:35                                             ` Richard Freeman
2009-05-17 11:40                                               ` Thomas Anderson
2009-05-17 12:00                                                 ` Arun Raghavan
2009-05-17  0:35                                           ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2009-05-17  0:50                                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-17  1:58                                               ` Duncan
2009-05-17  4:43                                                 ` Richard Freeman
2009-05-17  7:29                                                   ` Patrick Lauer
2009-05-17 11:14                                                     ` David Leverton
2009-05-17  7:40                                               ` Tiziano Müller
2009-05-17  8:01                                                 ` Patrick Lauer
2009-05-16 16:39                           ` [gentoo-dev] " Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 18:38                             ` Robert Buchholz
2009-05-16 18:42                               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16  9:27             ` Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
2009-05-16  9:59               ` David Leverton
2009-05-16 11:11                 ` Ben de Groot
2009-05-16 18:10                   ` William Hubbs
2009-05-16 18:14                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 18:22                       ` William Hubbs
2009-05-16 12:14                 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2009-05-16 14:15                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-16 17:28                   ` David Leverton
2009-05-16 20:00                     ` Joe Peterson
2009-05-16 20:11                       ` Denis Dupeyron
2009-05-16 20:13                         ` Denis Dupeyron
2009-05-17  8:29   ` [gentoo-dev] " Alistair Bush
2009-05-17 13:04     ` Richard Freeman
2009-05-16 21:58 ` [gentoo-dev] " Mark Bateman
2009-05-16 22:06   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-17  4:07     ` Mark Bateman
2009-05-17 16:35       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-05-17 16:54         ` Patrick Lauer

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