From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1M4gKo-0004Xr-Jg for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 14 May 2009 19:11:14 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A9E97E0727; Thu, 14 May 2009 19:11:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89B68E0727 for ; Thu, 14 May 2009 19:11:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from arcarius.localnet (unknown [88.103.16.210]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EED6865DB1 for ; Thu, 14 May 2009 19:11:12 +0000 (UTC) From: =?utf-8?q?Tom=C3=A1=C5=A1_Chv=C3=A1tal?= To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] The fallacies of GLEP55 Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 21:09:58 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.3 (Linux/2.6.29-gentoo; KDE/4.2.3; x86_64; ; ) References: <200905142006.51998.patrick@gentoo.org> <20090514193907.56754ae6@snowcone> In-Reply-To: <20090514193907.56754ae6@snowcone> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1556408.Quv8n0pzPJ"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200905142109.58809.scarabeus@gentoo.org> X-Archives-Salt: 4305ddec-b90a-41e8-b3d2-279225d341c1 X-Archives-Hash: ca7788aef06ffdbf2ed2833f57e84f39 --nextPart1556408.Quv8n0pzPJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Dne =C4=8Dtvrtek 14 Kv=C4=9Bten 2009 20:39:07 Ciaran McCreesh napsal(a): > Where on earth are you getting the idea that GLEP 55 makes things > slower? The only difference to the code with GLEP 55 is in checking > file extensions against a slightly larger set of strings, which is > nowhere near a measurable increase in anything. You're claiming that > checking for a suffix of either ".ebuild-4" or ".ebuild" against a > fixed string is in any way relevant, which is obviously trolling. Read the block once more, he is not stating that adding suffix to the filen= ame=20 is slower. > > > "Having GLEP55 allows us to add GLEP54 without issues!" > > Yeah, uhm, the live-ness of an ebuild is an attribute. How about we > > add it to metadata, as we should for all metadata? Define a key, I > > don't know ... LIVE ? LIVE=3D"true". There. No need to fix the > > filename. And now stop mixing up issues because it is highly > > confusing! > > There is no existing version ordering solution that accurately > represents upstream scm branches. > > > A few words in closing - > > > > We can encode all the relevant info in "the first line of the ebuild > > starting with EAPI=3D" > > No we can't. That's *obviously* completely wrong. We actualy can, you consider it wrong, so we all should do so > > > The overhead of parsing out this value for all ebuilds in the tree > > has been timed at ~2 CPU-seconds by solar. It's negligible. > > Those of us who have been measuring this have been discarding CPU time > entirely, since it's utterly irrelevant. That you bring CPU time into > this shows you've been deliberately ignoring everything we've said. Well cpu is not real benchmark, but if it took 2 secs it means the tweaking= is=20 not worth efforts. > > We all know you're not stupid enough to believe what you've been > posting or ignorant enough to miss the point so badly. So please stop > pretending -- this issue would have gone through a long time ago were > it not for you and your ilk deliberately pretending to be retarded so > you can raise straw man arguments against it rather than addressing the > issues at hand. You're doing both yourself and everyone else a huge > disfavour by acting dumb and assuming everyone else is going to play > along with that. And this is really just personal offense which you should take out from you= r=20 mails if you want somebody to take your experience acordingly to your=20 knowledge and not just judge you as 10 year old whining kid. Tomas --nextPart1556408.Quv8n0pzPJ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAkoMbIYACgkQHB6c3gNBRYeL3QCeOsX5rqMzrRLgRWkafydUaNQT +wwAnjlS08I+KvHfVmTkisrMkoGME7oc =0JYk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1556408.Quv8n0pzPJ--