From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1M4Ttz-0001Tj-7C for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 14 May 2009 05:54:43 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 32B76E0560; Thu, 14 May 2009 05:54:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dev.gentooexperimental.org (dev.gentooexperimental.org [81.93.240.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D638E0560 for ; Thu, 14 May 2009 05:54:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lolcathost.localnet (xdsl-84-44-248-68.netcologne.de [84.44.248.68]) by dev.gentooexperimental.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 482F8626A06 for ; Thu, 14 May 2009 07:54:40 +0200 (CEST) From: Patrick Lauer To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Project proposal -- maintainer-wanted Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 07:54:35 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.90 (Linux/2.6.28; KDE/4.2.85; x86_64; ; ) References: <1242261133.23088.82.camel@localhost> <4A0B783C.2000501@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200905140754.36015.patrick@gentoo.org> X-Archives-Salt: 99d708f9-8996-4dc6-9dde-8a3a384d8c03 X-Archives-Hash: 16960bd574bca8b56273b93133a21447 [Snip] > Maybe you just want Sunrise in the main tree instead of as a dedicated, > supervised overlay. There were people with VERY strong feelings against > Sunrise, to the point I believe at least one dev opposing it resigned > over it Yes, one did. Some people just need a good excuse to leave :) > and other boosting it were disciplined. Not that I remember. > Are you ready to take on > that sort of opposition to get it in-tree? Maybe it's time to have that > debate. Oh be quiet. Sunrise is a quite convenient testing ground, and I've borrowed quite a few ebuilds from there for the main tree. I haven't seen any issues in the last few months, those opposed seem to have finally accepted that users collaborating is not a stupid idea. And you get a nice recruiting area for free ... [Snip] > If there's a place for the new project and maybe there is, the > differences from and relationship with the Sunrise and proxy-maint > projects, and the method of bringing in or justification for ignoring the > hundreds of existing m-needed packages while arguably creating more, > needs mapped out. Alternatively, bend the proposal into a status change > for one or all of the above, and call a debate on that. I'd be for a discussion of "all of the above" since they are quite strongly linked.