From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LsUIM-0005tS-9h for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 03:54:18 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E2099E0474; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 03:54:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.ukfsn.org (mail.ukfsn.org [77.75.108.10]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BAAEE0474 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 03:54:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (smtp-filter.ukfsn.org [192.168.54.205]) by mail.ukfsn.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65F7BDEC52 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 04:54:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail.ukfsn.org ([192.168.54.25]) by localhost (smtp-filter.ukfsn.org [192.168.54.205]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Kz9LraZxgUKn for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 04:25:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from jnrowe.ukfsn.org (92.40.2.66.sub.mbb.three.co.uk [92.40.2.66]) by mail.ukfsn.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2858ADEC50 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 04:54:14 +0100 (BST) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 04:54:06 +0100 From: James Rowe To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: EAPI 3 PMS Draft Message-ID: <20090411035406.GA21854@ukfsn.org> Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org References: <20090316204717.699511f0@snowcone> <1237276217.31676.3403.camel@localhost> <20090317135505.5c0b812a@snowcone> <1239239522.29054.4.camel@localhost> <20090409153755.067a8eb0@snowcone> <20090410120307.0f09b688@terra.solaris> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="LQksG6bCIzRHxTLp" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090410120307.0f09b688@terra.solaris> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-Archives-Salt: 6b59dc61-d2bb-4c67-b686-104da159e24c X-Archives-Hash: f002c62dc265410bf2e4f6eba4627e77 --LQksG6bCIzRHxTLp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline * Christian Faulhammer (fauli@gentoo.org) wrote: > Some years ago as a Gentoo beginner I read the documentation of > FEATURES and enabled "test", because it sounded useful. After one week > I disabled it again as merges took too long and some failures occured. > Read: As a normal user I don't want src_test for every single package > that is installed on my system for whatever reason. FEATURES=test is > perfect for people who help maintain the distribution or want to test a > specific subset of packages they heavily rely on. I'm just a user and I run with FEATURES=test, and have done since at least March 2005[1]. I've definitely toyed with disabling it myself, but only because developers aren't using it, which means I catch bugs[2] that would have never existed if the developer had `test' enabled. > So imposing that penalty on everyone even the unexperienced will > likely confuse some people. Go to the forums or the support mailing > list to see what I mean. Package tests will have been run a -- possibly large -- number of times when users see them if they are rolled in to the EAPI bump. This isn't like the current situation of enabling tests and hoping somebody has run them during testing. Thanks, James 1. http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85901 2. http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138415 --LQksG6bCIzRHxTLp Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkngFF4ACgkQotN5XLOa4B6vgQCdGxn+qfjU/pLuFW9RFXDPdND/ Pa8An3JDE0GG1xIBmGLCuDFKBUGXtQLJ =MsKV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --LQksG6bCIzRHxTLp--