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From: Ciaran McCreesh <ciaran.mccreesh@googlemail.com>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI 3 PMS Draft
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 17:25:41 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090409172541.2e656b40@snowcone> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1239294039.2065.3.camel@localhost>

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On Thu, 09 Apr 2009 19:20:39 +0300
Mart Raudsepp <leio@gentoo.org> wrote:
> Every single test on any package is going to be done slower than not
> running tests.

So? If speed were important, people would use a binary distribution,
or just drop to -O1. But given the massive variability of Gentoo
systems, correctness is a far bigger worry.

> This PROPERTIES proposal has no relevance to the argument of why it is
> an extremely bad idea to enable it by default.

Sure it does. It means that for any package where there's a really
large slow-down, users will only run the tests if they want to.

> > We've been over all of this several times previously.
> 
> Yes, and by my understanding this will not be happening anytime soon,
> if ever, so I can repeat all my sound objections to it whenever you
> bring it up again in the more distant future, thank you.

Unfortunately, it looks like this proposal's one of those things that
some people will hate for ideological reasons no matter what. I just
hope there're enough people on the Council for whom QA and user systems
not breaking is sufficiently important that they'll vote in favour of
it.

-- 
Ciaran McCreesh

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-04-09 16:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-03-16 20:47 [gentoo-dev] EAPI 3 PMS Draft Ciaran McCreesh
2009-03-16 22:59 ` Maciej Mrozowski
2009-03-16 23:09   ` Rémi Cardona
2009-03-16 23:20   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-03-16 23:26     ` Tomáš Chvátal
2009-03-16 23:35       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-03-17  0:05         ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2009-03-17  0:17           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-03-17  0:46   ` Thomas Anderson
2009-03-17  4:07     ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2009-03-16 23:22 ` Tiziano Müller
2009-03-16 23:51   ` [gentoo-dev] " Ryan Hill
2009-03-16 23:54     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-03-17  2:47       ` Ryan Hill
2009-04-23  5:32         ` Donnie Berkholz
2009-04-23  6:05           ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2009-03-17  4:45     ` Luca Barbato
2009-03-17  6:47   ` [gentoo-dev] " Ulrich Mueller
2009-03-17  8:15     ` Tiziano Müller
2009-03-17  8:57       ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-03-17 13:55         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-03-17 15:11           ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-03-17 15:23             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-03-17  8:21   ` Tiziano Müller
2009-03-17  7:50 ` Peter Volkov
2009-03-17  8:05   ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-03-17  8:19     ` Tiziano Müller
2009-03-17 13:54     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-03-17 13:55   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-04-09  1:12     ` Mart Raudsepp
2009-04-09 14:37       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-04-09 16:20         ` Mart Raudsepp
2009-04-09 16:25           ` Ciaran McCreesh [this message]
2009-04-11 18:56             ` Alistair Bush
2009-04-11 19:10           ` [gentoo-dev] " Ryan Hill
2009-04-09 16:21         ` [gentoo-dev] " Patrick Lauer
2009-04-09 16:29           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-04-09 17:13             ` Richard Freeman
2009-04-09 19:24               ` Tiziano Müller
2009-04-10 10:03         ` [gentoo-dev] " Christian Faulhammer
2009-04-11  3:54           ` James Rowe
2009-04-11 10:57             ` Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
2009-04-11 12:09               ` James Rowe
2009-04-11 19:08       ` [gentoo-dev] " Alistair Bush
2009-03-17 15:47 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ciaran McCreesh
2009-03-27  9:40 ` [gentoo-dev] " Fabian Groffen

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