From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LjMLO-0001Gl-BA for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 23:35:42 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9FC87E04FE; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 23:35:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ew0-f173.google.com (mail-ew0-f173.google.com [209.85.219.173]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48450E04FE for ; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 23:35:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy21 with SMTP id 21so3778907ewy.34 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:35:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type; bh=JWp81RoQ1dosPsOr2x94SGJHhCe1EHAoKqkrWqjftWY=; b=drwA0UhKJZRckBG79NLXQcDVyMobxOI9mQh1Cppvm7FeUNqzBj5PS/vXWAqajciUAd fuCWumkDpfGM4Tb2YY2vgGqMOn+yriMwN1q0r7wLii8sKk4pXoCnZZDP1W82pd7Ezqow FDKOwGXK+05Omkw6QdmYPkuPOSbQpntPVxRc4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type; b=PTKw0zG404Z2LJ2eeEqzFClbGAefHG9IW/r51qI0LnkXWPVb/vWhKwjrcWE5ulymoM qoDRlfMQ33NVGBvJuiHLLBShC9eBuFcSLEAxsGov5YUwf6mOIWqwk/4zeG7tIQbCN0Eh 8JnwRyfiOPv5rurm7ZJAbxclZ3BPo8RTv36N8= Received: by 10.216.46.79 with SMTP id q57mr2033086web.212.1237246539561; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:35:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from snowcone (92-235-187-79.cable.ubr18.sgyl.blueyonder.co.uk [92.235.187.79]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k5sm330633nfh.67.2009.03.16.16.35.38 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:35:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 23:35:30 +0000 From: Ciaran McCreesh To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI 3 PMS Draft Message-ID: <20090316233530.503e9229@snowcone> In-Reply-To: <200903170026.40842.scarabeus@gentoo.org> References: <20090316204717.699511f0@snowcone> <200903162359.45789.reavertm@poczta.fm> <20090316232011.215effd5@snowcone> <200903170026.40842.scarabeus@gentoo.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.1 (GTK+ 2.14.7; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/hCxFYpxRfIBdibUpN5s3sXg"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 X-Archives-Salt: 6083be96-b1f0-406b-b793-f567c7a7034b X-Archives-Hash: dffa42b9c226a3d08b72c9b87e4df624 --Sig_/hCxFYpxRfIBdibUpN5s3sXg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 00:26:36 +0100 Tom=C3=A1=C5=A1 Chv=C3=A1tal wrote: > > Why? It was an official EAPI agreed upon by the Gentoo KDE project. > > Having it there is helpful for package manager people, and removing > > it would just mean more work when features make their way into > > Portage. Besides, if you really don't want to see it, you can just > > make it all invisible with one easy switch. > > > Actualy now people expect kde team to manage support for kdebuild > too. So it is not such crazy request. There's a lot of kdebuild-1 stuff still out there that the Gentoo KDE team created, and that users used because it was the best option at the time. You can't pretend it never existed. And remember, a package manager can't correctly uninstall something unless it knows about the installed package's EAPI. > > We've been over all this before. Unless you have something new to > > add, kindly avoid wasting people's time. >=20 > And you are not wasting others time by flaming all around glep 54. I > dont mean i dont agree with the glep i just dont agree with your way > promoting it. And if you say i dont have to read all the long flame > around you dont have the right saying somebody else not to write his > ideas on this mailing list. There has yet to be a decent technical objection to kdebuild-1 being in PMS. There has yet to be a decent technical objection to GLEP 54. Anyone going around objecting to either without bringing new material to the table is either trolling or hasn't done their homework. The nature of Gentoo management is such that any unanswered objection is treated as legitimate grounds to stall a proposal indefinitely, even if that objection has been answered ten times previously. I really don't want to see the Council sit around and not approve EAPI 3 until we have the whole kdebuild discussion again. --=20 Ciaran McCreesh --Sig_/hCxFYpxRfIBdibUpN5s3sXg Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkm+4kYACgkQ96zL6DUtXhEINwCgjz1O7JMFFMVjmPVP3uyvKxm0 QhMAn0eRkLV5c+1U9inxq4R7t7H+BRyb =vOX/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/hCxFYpxRfIBdibUpN5s3sXg--