From: Ciaran McCreesh <ciaran.mccreesh@googlemail.com>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Ideas for a (fast) EAPI=3
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 16:17:27 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090310161727.39f3823a@snowcone> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090310171156.39c6061c@terra.solaris>
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On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 17:11:56 +0100
Christian Faulhammer <fauli@gentoo.org> wrote:
> Ciaran McCreesh <ciaran.mccreesh@googlemail.com>:
> > Then this is a legitimate problem that someone needs to know about
> > and fix. So having src_test turned on globally is a *good* thing.
> >
> [...]
> >
> > Again, finding this is good.
> [...]
> >
> > And if you're on an especially slow platform, as a user you can turn
> > tests off.
>
> Ciaran, your initial argument was that stable users won't see those
> failures as architecture teams will spot them during stabilisation.
Unless there is a genuine problem, yes.
> This is wrong, above cases will turn up after a successful
> stabilisation with full QA.
And they indicate a genuine problem, so you want them to show up.
> Nobody ever said, that spotting those is bad, so for me this
> discussion has ended. Enabling by default for everyone (not all
> users are experts, like it or not) is a bad idea as it causes many
> false positives and has drawbacks for just-users.
So? The occasional false positive, which can quickly be fixed, is a lot
better than missing things that will break a user's system. We should
be failing safely, not defaulting to dangerous behaviour.
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Ciaran McCreesh
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Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-03-08 7:49 [gentoo-dev] Ideas for a (fast) EAPI=3 Tiziano Müller
2009-03-08 8:08 ` Josh Saddler
2009-03-08 8:29 ` [gentoo-dev] " Christian Faulhammer
2009-03-08 8:38 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ciaran McCreesh
2009-03-08 9:32 ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-03-08 9:43 ` Tiziano Müller
2009-03-08 10:20 ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-03-08 11:05 ` Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2009-03-08 11:23 ` Tiziano Müller
2009-03-08 16:22 ` Robert Buchholz
2009-03-08 18:31 ` Tiziano Müller
2009-03-08 16:42 ` Donnie Berkholz
2009-03-08 16:48 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-03-08 17:01 ` Donnie Berkholz
2009-03-08 17:24 ` William Hubbs
2009-03-08 18:24 ` Donnie Berkholz
2009-03-08 18:35 ` Tiziano Müller
2009-03-08 18:41 ` Donnie Berkholz
2009-03-08 18:27 ` Tiziano Müller
2009-03-08 22:16 ` Donnie Berkholz
2009-03-08 22:35 ` Tiziano Müller
2009-03-09 4:22 ` Donnie Berkholz
2009-03-09 6:31 ` Donnie Berkholz
2009-03-09 9:17 ` Tiziano Müller
2009-03-09 9:02 ` [gentoo-dev] " Christian Faulhammer
2009-03-09 9:12 ` [gentoo-dev] " Michael Haubenwallner
2009-03-09 18:01 ` Tobias Scherbaum
2009-03-09 1:46 ` Thomas Anderson
2009-03-08 17:20 ` Jesus Rivero
2009-03-08 17:44 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-03-08 18:06 ` Stelian Ionescu
2009-03-08 18:29 ` Tiziano Müller
2009-03-09 8:39 ` [gentoo-dev] " Christian Faulhammer
2009-03-09 9:01 ` Daniel Pielmeier
2009-03-09 9:06 ` Christian Faulhammer
2009-03-09 9:13 ` Daniel Pielmeier
2009-03-09 9:14 ` Tiziano Müller
2009-03-13 8:48 ` Christian Faulhammer
2009-03-09 20:26 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ciaran McCreesh
2009-03-09 20:56 ` Zac Medico
2009-03-09 21:08 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-03-09 21:28 ` Zac Medico
2009-03-09 21:37 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-03-09 21:33 ` [gentoo-dev] " Christian Faulhammer
2009-03-09 21:36 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-03-09 22:20 ` Christian Faulhammer
2009-03-09 22:25 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-03-09 23:25 ` Christian Faulhammer
2009-03-10 12:33 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-03-10 16:11 ` Christian Faulhammer
2009-03-10 16:17 ` Ciaran McCreesh [this message]
2009-03-10 3:58 ` Alec Warner
2009-03-10 12:35 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-03-10 16:00 ` Christian Faulhammer
2009-03-10 16:07 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-03-09 22:24 ` Maciej Mrozowski
2009-03-09 22:28 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-03-09 22:39 ` [gentoo-dev] " Donnie Berkholz
2009-03-09 22:53 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-03-12 18:43 ` Donnie Berkholz
2009-03-12 18:48 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-03-10 9:08 ` Michael Haubenwallner
2009-03-10 12:33 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-03-09 22:39 ` Peter Alfredsen
2009-03-10 17:51 ` Sébastien Fabbro
2009-03-10 19:59 ` Doug Goldstein
2009-03-09 22:38 ` Jeremy Olexa
2009-03-09 22:58 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-03-10 15:30 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-03-12 23:05 ` Maciej Mrozowski
2009-03-12 23:20 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-03-13 20:11 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-03-13 22:31 ` Tiziano Müller
2009-04-09 1:51 ` Mart Raudsepp
2009-04-09 2:12 ` Mart Raudsepp
2009-04-09 3:02 ` Olivier Crête
2009-04-09 8:37 ` Tiziano Müller
2009-04-09 10:44 ` Mart Raudsepp
2009-04-09 14:36 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-04-09 14:32 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-04-13 12:55 ` Peter Volkov
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