From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Lh19Y-0008Lw-Uq for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 12:33:50 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CD74EE02E8; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 12:33:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.187]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FD6EE02E8 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 12:33:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b11so377572nfh.26 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 05:33:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type; bh=7ZAM2l9NJ8xBP5we3EN+rXTqtnhIKohvalP5cDjGk/s=; b=ESA3L9SHC9dIeYkIcRzvc53uRiCdDgI6N5vK7nER0OyCAauYx+ba8LRhEErqzr3/rT Dph/5obnwcCi/2THAc+aDPszcp2aei14id636DMgvyhlSScvdi7eZrk6C0Kxw2It/+nM az1yc3pcBY7p0xAB48UKTCBjhBoo5Ftisz2wY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type; b=cOjgLQVXBWbuCTKSeRPbtqtsD/u+J+Zi4eMNzGgg5A1BRbOKxYNDMYZyuc7kbfDr2L wEnyE3j+gLk8taiGiYelxh9Miq1LJY/xVXrx5um3IylOiP7QEksK+bF7VzF8P7dur11I EnkWQbDUUBOOd7/S9TQfrBDHmMEtwhgL8yQfI= Received: by 10.216.50.144 with SMTP id z16mr2657994web.65.1236688426779; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 05:33:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from snowcone (92-235-187-79.cable.ubr18.sgyl.blueyonder.co.uk [92.235.187.79]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f7sm9551353nfh.13.2009.03.10.05.33.45 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 10 Mar 2009 05:33:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 12:33:38 +0000 From: Ciaran McCreesh To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Ideas for a (fast) EAPI=3 Message-ID: <20090310123338.1a80f5e3@snowcone> In-Reply-To: <20090310002549.207e542f@terra.solaris> References: <1236498557.6854.51.camel@neuromancer> <20090309202624.723e4b2a@snowcone> <20090309223311.4774f0bf@terra.solaris> <20090309213633.4710250e@snowmobile> <20090309232003.09d922a2@terra.solaris> <20090309222511.751c5aea@snowmobile> <20090310002549.207e542f@terra.solaris> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.1 (GTK+ 2.14.7; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/gGTBZlztOlDs_BjqVGFJ4dd"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 X-Archives-Salt: b65f4bb0-680c-46af-9b05-d44748bb7990 X-Archives-Hash: f3673aef5148164b401eed89ca62953d --Sig_/gGTBZlztOlDs_BjqVGFJ4dd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 00:25:49 +0100 Christian Faulhammer wrote: > > Uh, you *are* testing things that use a library before you stable > > that library, right? >=20 > When I was an architecture developer I tried to. But when > stabilising a minor version of curl (for example), testing all > reverse dependencies is no option. But this broke tests for Bazaar > for example in stable. Then this is a legitimate problem that someone needs to know about and fix. So having src_test turned on globally is a *good* thing. > Badly written Autoconf systems which will break in src_test() with a > different version of intltool, which is not a direct dependency. Again, finding this is good. > That pitfall hit me several times in the last years. The more, x86 > e.g. ranges from embedded Geode platforms to dual core desktop > systems and running the sqlite test suite on the first is no fun. As > a user I would not accept two hours of build time. Test-driven > development is great, but not so widely used as one could wish it to > be. And if you're on an especially slow platform, as a user you can turn tests off. --=20 Ciaran McCreesh --Sig_/gGTBZlztOlDs_BjqVGFJ4dd Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkm2XiUACgkQ96zL6DUtXhHYRwCeMYR+s2NNTqAgkJF0OxcxG9Z/ sMkAniHbo3/2JrYKBjQ2MAGhKe8zJP3o =OB0b -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/gGTBZlztOlDs_BjqVGFJ4dd--