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From: Christian Faulhammer <fauli@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: Ideas for a (fast) EAPI=3
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 10:02:50 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090309100250.2ddf6a73@terra.solaris> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090309042202.GC6343@comet.hsd1.or.comcast.net>

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Hallo,

Donnie Berkholz <dberkholz@gentoo.org>:
> On 23:35 Sun 08 Mar     , Tiziano Müller wrote:
> > Well, the point I'm trying to make here is a different one: The
> > syntax you proposed is more to write but still equivalent to the
> > one using vars. And looking at the ebuilds - taking G2CONF as an
> > example - it seems that people don't have a problem with putting
> > their config options into vars. And furthermore with your syntax
> > you still have to write out "econf $(use_with ...)" explicitly
> > while adding it the conf-vars to a var (as proposed) makes the
> > complete src_configure function obsolete, allows the usage of the
> > default src_configure/src_compile/src_install (see 
> > http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/msg_17e6ae8082aeb762fd01ba7307457789.xml 
> > for example) and is therefore even shorter to write.
> 
> I think the idea of ebuilds as scripts showing directly how to build 
> software is a core part of the Gentoo build-system philosophy. This 
> proposal pushes ebuilds toward a formatted file that is not a script. 
> Instead, it is more like an Ant XML file that more abstractly
> describes a build. I think this is the wrong direction for ebuilds
> because they should directly resemble how software is built by hand.

 I agree with you here, the saving of space by not defining a custom
src_configure() stands against readability for non-developers (also
known as people who do not work with ebuilds on a daily basis but still
regularly).  We gain only a little bit.

V-Li

-- 
Christian Faulhammer, Gentoo Lisp project
<URL:http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/lisp/>, #gentoo-lisp on FreeNode

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-03-09  9:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-03-08  7:49 [gentoo-dev] Ideas for a (fast) EAPI=3 Tiziano Müller
2009-03-08  8:08 ` Josh Saddler
2009-03-08  8:29   ` [gentoo-dev] " Christian Faulhammer
2009-03-08  8:38   ` [gentoo-dev] " Ciaran McCreesh
2009-03-08  9:32     ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-03-08  9:43   ` Tiziano Müller
2009-03-08 10:20     ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-03-08 11:05     ` Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2009-03-08 11:23       ` Tiziano Müller
2009-03-08 16:22 ` Robert Buchholz
2009-03-08 18:31   ` Tiziano Müller
2009-03-08 16:42 ` Donnie Berkholz
2009-03-08 16:48   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-03-08 17:01     ` Donnie Berkholz
2009-03-08 17:24       ` William Hubbs
2009-03-08 18:24       ` Donnie Berkholz
2009-03-08 18:35         ` Tiziano Müller
2009-03-08 18:41           ` Donnie Berkholz
2009-03-08 18:27       ` Tiziano Müller
2009-03-08 22:16         ` Donnie Berkholz
2009-03-08 22:35           ` Tiziano Müller
2009-03-09  4:22             ` Donnie Berkholz
2009-03-09  6:31               ` Donnie Berkholz
2009-03-09  9:17                 ` Tiziano Müller
2009-03-09  9:02               ` Christian Faulhammer [this message]
2009-03-09  9:12               ` Michael Haubenwallner
2009-03-09 18:01                 ` Tobias Scherbaum
2009-03-09  1:46   ` Thomas Anderson
2009-03-08 17:20 ` Jesus Rivero
2009-03-08 17:44   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-03-08 18:06 ` Stelian Ionescu
2009-03-08 18:29   ` Tiziano Müller
2009-03-09  8:39 ` [gentoo-dev] " Christian Faulhammer
2009-03-09  9:01   ` Daniel Pielmeier
2009-03-09  9:06     ` Christian Faulhammer
2009-03-09  9:13       ` Daniel Pielmeier
2009-03-09  9:14       ` Tiziano Müller
2009-03-13  8:48         ` Christian Faulhammer
2009-03-09 20:26 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ciaran McCreesh
2009-03-09 20:56   ` Zac Medico
2009-03-09 21:08     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-03-09 21:28       ` Zac Medico
2009-03-09 21:37         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-03-09 21:33   ` [gentoo-dev] " Christian Faulhammer
2009-03-09 21:36     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-03-09 22:20       ` Christian Faulhammer
2009-03-09 22:25         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-03-09 23:25           ` Christian Faulhammer
2009-03-10 12:33             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-03-10 16:11               ` Christian Faulhammer
2009-03-10 16:17                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-03-10  3:58           ` Alec Warner
2009-03-10 12:35             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-03-10 16:00               ` Christian Faulhammer
2009-03-10 16:07                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-03-09 22:24       ` Maciej Mrozowski
2009-03-09 22:28         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-03-09 22:39   ` [gentoo-dev] " Donnie Berkholz
2009-03-09 22:53     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-03-12 18:43       ` Donnie Berkholz
2009-03-12 18:48         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-03-10  9:08     ` Michael Haubenwallner
2009-03-10 12:33       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-03-09 22:39   ` Peter Alfredsen
2009-03-10 17:51   ` Sébastien Fabbro
2009-03-10 19:59   ` Doug Goldstein
2009-03-09 22:38 ` Jeremy Olexa
2009-03-09 22:58   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-03-10 15:30 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-03-12 23:05 ` Maciej Mrozowski
2009-03-12 23:20   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-03-13 20:11 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-03-13 22:31   ` Tiziano Müller
2009-04-09  1:51 ` Mart Raudsepp
2009-04-09  2:12   ` Mart Raudsepp
2009-04-09  3:02   ` Olivier Crête
2009-04-09  8:37   ` Tiziano Müller
2009-04-09 10:44     ` Mart Raudsepp
2009-04-09 14:36       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-04-09 14:32   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-04-13 12:55     ` Peter Volkov

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