From: Christian Faulhammer <fauli@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: Ideas for a (fast) EAPI=3
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 10:02:50 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090309100250.2ddf6a73@terra.solaris> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090309042202.GC6343@comet.hsd1.or.comcast.net>
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Hallo,
Donnie Berkholz <dberkholz@gentoo.org>:
> On 23:35 Sun 08 Mar , Tiziano Müller wrote:
> > Well, the point I'm trying to make here is a different one: The
> > syntax you proposed is more to write but still equivalent to the
> > one using vars. And looking at the ebuilds - taking G2CONF as an
> > example - it seems that people don't have a problem with putting
> > their config options into vars. And furthermore with your syntax
> > you still have to write out "econf $(use_with ...)" explicitly
> > while adding it the conf-vars to a var (as proposed) makes the
> > complete src_configure function obsolete, allows the usage of the
> > default src_configure/src_compile/src_install (see
> > http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/msg_17e6ae8082aeb762fd01ba7307457789.xml
> > for example) and is therefore even shorter to write.
>
> I think the idea of ebuilds as scripts showing directly how to build
> software is a core part of the Gentoo build-system philosophy. This
> proposal pushes ebuilds toward a formatted file that is not a script.
> Instead, it is more like an Ant XML file that more abstractly
> describes a build. I think this is the wrong direction for ebuilds
> because they should directly resemble how software is built by hand.
I agree with you here, the saving of space by not defining a custom
src_configure() stands against readability for non-developers (also
known as people who do not work with ebuilds on a daily basis but still
regularly). We gain only a little bit.
V-Li
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Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-03-08 7:49 [gentoo-dev] Ideas for a (fast) EAPI=3 Tiziano Müller
2009-03-08 8:08 ` Josh Saddler
2009-03-08 8:29 ` [gentoo-dev] " Christian Faulhammer
2009-03-08 8:38 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ciaran McCreesh
2009-03-08 9:32 ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-03-08 9:43 ` Tiziano Müller
2009-03-08 10:20 ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-03-08 11:05 ` Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2009-03-08 11:23 ` Tiziano Müller
2009-03-08 16:22 ` Robert Buchholz
2009-03-08 18:31 ` Tiziano Müller
2009-03-08 16:42 ` Donnie Berkholz
2009-03-08 16:48 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-03-08 17:01 ` Donnie Berkholz
2009-03-08 17:24 ` William Hubbs
2009-03-08 18:24 ` Donnie Berkholz
2009-03-08 18:35 ` Tiziano Müller
2009-03-08 18:41 ` Donnie Berkholz
2009-03-08 18:27 ` Tiziano Müller
2009-03-08 22:16 ` Donnie Berkholz
2009-03-08 22:35 ` Tiziano Müller
2009-03-09 4:22 ` Donnie Berkholz
2009-03-09 6:31 ` Donnie Berkholz
2009-03-09 9:17 ` Tiziano Müller
2009-03-09 9:02 ` Christian Faulhammer [this message]
2009-03-09 9:12 ` Michael Haubenwallner
2009-03-09 18:01 ` Tobias Scherbaum
2009-03-09 1:46 ` Thomas Anderson
2009-03-08 17:20 ` Jesus Rivero
2009-03-08 17:44 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-03-08 18:06 ` Stelian Ionescu
2009-03-08 18:29 ` Tiziano Müller
2009-03-09 8:39 ` [gentoo-dev] " Christian Faulhammer
2009-03-09 9:01 ` Daniel Pielmeier
2009-03-09 9:06 ` Christian Faulhammer
2009-03-09 9:13 ` Daniel Pielmeier
2009-03-09 9:14 ` Tiziano Müller
2009-03-13 8:48 ` Christian Faulhammer
2009-03-09 20:26 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ciaran McCreesh
2009-03-09 20:56 ` Zac Medico
2009-03-09 21:08 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-03-09 21:28 ` Zac Medico
2009-03-09 21:37 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-03-09 21:33 ` [gentoo-dev] " Christian Faulhammer
2009-03-09 21:36 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-03-09 22:20 ` Christian Faulhammer
2009-03-09 22:25 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-03-09 23:25 ` Christian Faulhammer
2009-03-10 12:33 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-03-10 16:11 ` Christian Faulhammer
2009-03-10 16:17 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-03-10 3:58 ` Alec Warner
2009-03-10 12:35 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-03-10 16:00 ` Christian Faulhammer
2009-03-10 16:07 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-03-09 22:24 ` Maciej Mrozowski
2009-03-09 22:28 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-03-09 22:39 ` [gentoo-dev] " Donnie Berkholz
2009-03-09 22:53 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-03-12 18:43 ` Donnie Berkholz
2009-03-12 18:48 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-03-10 9:08 ` Michael Haubenwallner
2009-03-10 12:33 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-03-09 22:39 ` Peter Alfredsen
2009-03-10 17:51 ` Sébastien Fabbro
2009-03-10 19:59 ` Doug Goldstein
2009-03-09 22:38 ` Jeremy Olexa
2009-03-09 22:58 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-03-10 15:30 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-03-12 23:05 ` Maciej Mrozowski
2009-03-12 23:20 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-03-13 20:11 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-03-13 22:31 ` Tiziano Müller
2009-04-09 1:51 ` Mart Raudsepp
2009-04-09 2:12 ` Mart Raudsepp
2009-04-09 3:02 ` Olivier Crête
2009-04-09 8:37 ` Tiziano Müller
2009-04-09 10:44 ` Mart Raudsepp
2009-04-09 14:36 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-04-09 14:32 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-04-13 12:55 ` Peter Volkov
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