From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LerdI-0003Mv-FB for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 13:59:36 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4DBDFE01E3; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 13:59:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from qw-out-1920.google.com (qw-out-1920.google.com [74.125.92.146]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32685E01E3 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 13:59:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qw-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 9so2627030qwj.10 for ; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 05:59:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:received:date:from:to :subject:message-id:references:mime-version:content-type :content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=/44KmlWbgRr8AD11LrunABuucc7Pw6n0877YPPw9cO4=; b=BIcUhy/wMVnJMOnMfrbLR7dERClPWhzZsowh5NyRtx8ZPHwN+ufkok8kbkKQwA6gvj l5hlk5tz0HPxY4wN5WybOyxqxQyN2TpqaaOrIZDKnSBCnCEmSn5tDdfekquxVYIAlsN7 n22OhTyUgWoF39WuSA6eFLzCM3bx8O8Vk77b4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=iQZDIbdkcbXGzbMg4wGx3jq6Bk+1Ua9lwF1LkqgAF4wuDkOvd+8Cknxr319NvH8Q06 oAfIZfMxXOdPgDi2EqtYT5dKuOI0MGTL2Il6uK8cXsr/OkhWDmYiKRFa8T0wtWNthouy WgqyaItEfBO5JLgaILPp7NGSm2Chbfq3aLcUc= Received: by 10.224.67.142 with SMTP id r14mr11630484qai.284.1236175174908; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 05:59:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.gmail.com (c-69-249-154-72.hsd1.nj.comcast.net [69.249.154.72]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 9sm3004825yxs.19.2009.03.04.05.59.33 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 04 Mar 2009 05:59:34 -0800 (PST) Sender: Thomas Anderson Received: by smtp.gmail.com (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1000 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) gentoofan23@gentoo.org; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 08:59:34 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 08:59:33 -0500 From: Thomas Anderson To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Regen2 ( was QA Overlay Layout support ) Message-ID: <20090304135933.GA21452@dodo.hsd1.nj.comcast.net> References: <81bfc67a0903032332g6ab9d278q733cb514338b0bb4@mail.gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="LZvS9be/3tNcYl/X" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <81bfc67a0903032332g6ab9d278q733cb514338b0bb4@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) X-Archives-Salt: 42adf8f5-d32a-48ad-8f43-2db7f89dc335 X-Archives-Hash: 271292b91be06bd9e1a27f03fec6eed8 --LZvS9be/3tNcYl/X Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Mar 04, 2009 at 02:32:13AM -0500, Caleb Cushing wrote: > > Further, overlays are good places to put ebuilds for software that is m= ore > > experimental than what's expected for ~arch. That includes live ebuilds= =2E In the > > end, overlays have a (far) lower level of guaranteed quality than the m= ain tree, > > for their ebuilds >=20 > because ~arch is supposed to work? take open bug on wine-1.1.16 it > doesn't build on amd64 and yet it's ~amd64. how about that nam ebuild > that has invalid bash that I mentioned? that's some quality work > there. The point is the tree is no better or worse than the overlays > in many cases. Heh, that's the problem with ~arch. ~amd64 keywords aren't added for every new version; keywords are carried over from the previous version. Having to test each new version of a package before it receiving a keyword puts far too much stress on the arch teams(who are struggling under the current workload, a lot of >75 stable request bugs). What happens is the keyword gets carried over from the previous version. So if a developer screws up, the arch teams really have no idea because 1) we don't get assigned any bug with our keyword in it. 2) We don't run ~arch. --=20 --------- Thomas Anderson Gentoo Developer ///////// Areas of responsibility: AMD64, Secretary to the Gentoo Council --------- --LZvS9be/3tNcYl/X Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAkmuiUUACgkQF6yMcaBxwHn3SwCgjfodai4AlL4X8OuhGGVwpgqn V9cAnjBWz7FsTg8tIlQQwyLcVTT9aVf1 =DqjY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --LZvS9be/3tNcYl/X--