From: Ciaran McCreesh <ciaran.mccreesh@googlemail.com>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Collecting opinions about GLEP 55 and alternatives
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 18:07:32 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090226180732.5c95a0ca@snowmobile> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <49A472E3.1010204@gentoo.org>
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On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 00:21:23 +0200
Petteri Räty <betelgeuse@gentoo.org> wrote:
> 3) EAPI in locked down place in the ebuild
There's a less extreme variant on this that's slightly cleaner, and
with appropriate weaseling is also less messy. Simply add the following
very carefully worded additional requirement for future EAPIs, and
retroactively impose it upon current ones:
If EAPI is to be set, it must be set strictly before any global scope
command or package manager defined function is called. Once set, EAPI
must not be set to a different value.
Then, the migration path is as follows:
* Fix existing violations (including ones in overlays). Wait a while
until everyone's synced.
* Get package managers to make use of these stricter requirements to
avoid barfing ickily when using things with future EAPIs with
different global scope rules.
* Wait a year. New EAPIs can come out in the mean time, but they can't
change global scope behaviour.
* Use that year to migrate to the key=value cache format with a second,
package-manager-only versioned variable that lets package managers
check cache validity even for unsupported EAPIs so long as there
aren't any cache validation rule changes.
* Change global scope behaviour in new EAPIs at will, but not versioning
rules.
Note that this is functionally equivalent to Brian's eapi as a function
proposal, but much less messy. It's also as powerful for the package
manager as fixed-position, but less inflexible. So if you must go with
something other than GLEP 55, along with all the restrictions and mess
that doing so imposes, this is the one to pick...
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Ciaran McCreesh
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Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-02-24 22:21 [gentoo-dev] Collecting opinions about GLEP 55 and alternatives Petteri Räty
2009-02-24 22:49 ` Ferris McCormick
2009-02-24 23:48 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ryan Hill
2009-02-25 0:38 ` [gentoo-dev] " Richard Freeman
2009-02-25 2:40 ` Jeremy Olexa
2009-02-25 3:53 ` Dawid Węgliński
2009-02-25 4:32 ` Alistair Bush
2009-02-25 6:46 ` Alec Warner
2009-02-25 6:49 ` Jeroen Roovers
2009-02-25 6:53 ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-02-25 21:00 ` Joe Peterson
2009-02-25 8:16 ` Alexis Ballier
2009-02-25 10:05 ` Tobias Klausmann
2009-02-25 10:34 ` Peter Alfredsen
2009-02-25 10:59 ` Michael Haubenwallner
2009-02-25 11:18 ` Mike Auty
2009-02-25 11:57 ` Jim Ramsay
2009-02-25 12:49 ` Brian Harring
2009-02-25 22:19 ` Andrew Gaffney
2009-02-25 23:03 ` [gentoo-dev] eapi function (Was: Collecting opinions about GLEP 55 and alternatives) Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-26 0:02 ` Brian Harring
2009-02-26 0:11 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-26 0:24 ` Brian Harring
2009-02-26 0:32 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-26 0:43 ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2009-02-26 0:51 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-26 11:07 ` Petteri Räty
2009-02-25 14:33 ` [gentoo-dev] Collecting opinions about GLEP 55 and alternatives Robert Buchholz
2009-02-25 19:03 ` Thomas Anderson
2009-02-25 21:09 ` Josh Saddler
2009-02-26 2:13 ` Ravi Pinjala
2009-02-26 3:13 ` Kumba
2009-02-28 20:52 ` Kumba
2009-02-26 5:36 ` Zac Medico
2009-02-26 18:07 ` Ciaran McCreesh [this message]
2009-02-26 18:20 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-26 18:47 ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2009-02-26 18:56 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-26 19:16 ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2009-02-26 19:24 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-27 9:27 ` Caleb Cushing
2009-02-27 10:52 ` Rémi Cardona
2009-02-28 10:56 ` Peter Volkov
2009-02-28 12:25 ` Fernando J. Pereda
2009-02-28 19:39 ` Robert Bridge
2009-02-28 19:46 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-03-02 7:31 ` [gentoo-dev] " Christian Faulhammer
2009-03-02 8:33 ` Tiziano Müller
2009-03-02 21:23 ` [gentoo-dev] " Thilo Bangert
2009-03-09 13:01 ` Jacob Floyd
2009-03-09 15:54 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2009-03-09 19:54 ` Richard Freeman
2009-03-10 6:18 ` Duncan
2009-03-10 15:58 ` Christian Faulhammer
2009-03-10 21:11 ` Santiago M. Mola
2009-03-10 8:53 ` [gentoo-dev] " Michael Haubenwallner
2009-03-12 17:18 ` Alistair Bush
2009-03-13 10:29 ` Michael Haubenwallner
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