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From: Ciaran McCreesh <ciaran.mccreesh@googlemail.com>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] eapi function (Was: Collecting opinions about GLEP 55 and alternatives)
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 23:03:07 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090225230307.33c9f4f8@snowcone> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090225124951.GD3506@hrair>

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On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 04:49:51 -0800
Brian Harring <ferringb@gmail.com> wrote:
> 4) eapi as a function; instead of "EAPI=1", do "eapi 1", required as 
>  the first statement (simplest way).

Doesn't solve anything over having it as a variable, and has a messy
upgrade path.

>   - global scope changes can occur (inherit mechanism changes 
>     included).

Global scope changes can no more occur than they can with it as a
variable. All it does is changes where the barfing occurs to slightly
earlier on.

>   - transition is slightly icky; basically one of the following is 
>     required-
>    a) for EAPI>=2, do 'eapi 3 || die "upgrade your manager"'.  Reason 
>     for this is that current managers obviously lack an eapi
> function, to make managers available *now* blow up the || die is
> required. This solution can be deployed now, no transition required
> although at some point stating "eapi is required retroactively for
> all eapis" would be wise to eliminate the need for the || die (cut 
>     support basically for old managers)

Global scope die is very very messy. This leaks out to users in the
form of horrible messages that make the user think something's badly
broken.

>    b) bashrc trickery, defines an eapi if it's unset.  Said eapi 
>     function exports EAPI=$1, optionally triggering a die if the eapi 
>     isn't 0,1,2 (since any later eapi would require a manager upgrade 
>     which would also have the eapi function).

Unportable, and still leaks out to users.

This whole thing only looks neat until you think about it...

-- 
Ciaran McCreesh

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-02-25 23:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-02-24 22:21 [gentoo-dev] Collecting opinions about GLEP 55 and alternatives Petteri Räty
2009-02-24 22:49 ` Ferris McCormick
2009-02-24 23:48 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ryan Hill
2009-02-25  0:38 ` [gentoo-dev] " Richard Freeman
2009-02-25  2:40 ` Jeremy Olexa
2009-02-25  3:53 ` Dawid Węgliński
2009-02-25  4:32 ` Alistair Bush
2009-02-25  6:46 ` Alec Warner
2009-02-25  6:49 ` Jeroen Roovers
2009-02-25  6:53 ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-02-25 21:00   ` Joe Peterson
2009-02-25  8:16 ` Alexis Ballier
2009-02-25 10:05 ` Tobias Klausmann
2009-02-25 10:34 ` Peter Alfredsen
2009-02-25 10:59 ` Michael Haubenwallner
2009-02-25 11:18 ` Mike Auty
2009-02-25 11:57 ` Jim Ramsay
2009-02-25 12:49 ` Brian Harring
2009-02-25 22:19   ` Andrew Gaffney
2009-02-25 23:03   ` Ciaran McCreesh [this message]
2009-02-26  0:02     ` [gentoo-dev] eapi function (Was: Collecting opinions about GLEP 55 and alternatives) Brian Harring
2009-02-26  0:11       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-26  0:24         ` Brian Harring
2009-02-26  0:32           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-26  0:43         ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2009-02-26  0:51           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-26 11:07             ` Petteri Räty
2009-02-25 14:33 ` [gentoo-dev] Collecting opinions about GLEP 55 and alternatives Robert Buchholz
2009-02-25 19:03 ` Thomas Anderson
2009-02-25 21:09 ` Josh Saddler
2009-02-26  2:13 ` Ravi Pinjala
2009-02-26  3:13 ` Kumba
2009-02-28 20:52   ` Kumba
2009-02-26  5:36 ` Zac Medico
2009-02-26 18:07 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-26 18:20   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-26 18:47     ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2009-02-26 18:56       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-26 19:16         ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2009-02-26 19:24           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-27  9:27 ` Caleb Cushing
2009-02-27 10:52 ` Rémi Cardona
2009-02-28 10:56 ` Peter Volkov
2009-02-28 12:25 ` Fernando J. Pereda
2009-02-28 19:39 ` Robert Bridge
2009-02-28 19:46   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-03-02  7:31 ` [gentoo-dev] " Christian Faulhammer
2009-03-02  8:33   ` Tiziano Müller
2009-03-02 21:23 ` [gentoo-dev] " Thilo Bangert
2009-03-09 13:01 ` Jacob Floyd
2009-03-09 15:54   ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2009-03-09 19:54     ` Richard Freeman
2009-03-10  6:18       ` Duncan
2009-03-10 15:58         ` Christian Faulhammer
2009-03-10 21:11           ` Santiago M. Mola
2009-03-10  8:53 ` [gentoo-dev] " Michael Haubenwallner
2009-03-12 17:18   ` Alistair Bush
2009-03-13 10:29     ` Michael Haubenwallner

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