From: Ciaran McCreesh <ciaran.mccreesh@googlemail.com>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Issues regarding glep-55 (Was: [gentoo-council] Re: Preliminary Meeting-Topics for 12 February 2009)
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 19:19:28 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090224191928.6b9e52db@snowcone> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090224140845.73053f4c@vrm378-02.vrm378.am.mot.com>
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On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 14:08:45 -0500
Jim Ramsay <lack@gentoo.org> wrote:
> But when you say "worth the complexity", I'm not exactly sure what
> your standards of "worthiness" are.
>
> I don't think the human cognition of a 2-level versioning scheme is
> that tricky, so I assume you must mean complexity in the internals of
> package managers - but this should just be a Simple Matter Of
> Programming.
People are struggling with the one level scheme we have now. We're
already having to produce fancy tables and summaries for new EAPIs
because people can't keep track of when features came along. Two levels
just means no-one will remember any of it.
For the package manager, it's just a bit of added mess, not any major
difficulty.
> (Of course I have no idea if people actually would accept a two-level
> EAPI any more than glep-55 as-is... I just think it addresses the
> concerns I've heard in this thread in a way that does not break
> the valid solutions to real problems presented in glep-55)
People are opposed to 55 because of a knee-jerk reaction against
changing file extensions and against doing anything that comes from
the great Satan and all his little minions... If you're going to throw
an equivalent but supposedly compromising solution at people, go for
'.eapi3.eb' instead.
--
Ciaran McCreesh
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2009-02-23 2:15 ` [gentoo-dev] Issues regarding glep-55 (Was: [gentoo-council] Re: Preliminary Meeting-Topics for 12 February 2009) Luca Barbato
2009-02-23 8:38 ` [gentoo-dev] " Tiziano Müller
2009-02-23 8:52 ` Brian Harring
2009-02-23 13:45 ` Duncan
2009-02-23 9:25 ` Alistair Bush
2009-02-23 10:02 ` Tiziano Müller
2009-02-23 10:28 ` Douglas Anderson
2009-02-23 12:26 ` Brian Harring
2009-02-23 13:50 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-23 14:15 ` Brian Harring
2009-02-23 14:23 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-23 14:28 ` Richard Freeman
2009-02-23 14:36 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-23 15:43 ` Steve Dibb
2009-02-23 15:53 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-23 16:13 ` Alexis Ballier
2009-02-23 16:19 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-23 16:48 ` Alexis Ballier
2009-02-23 17:01 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-23 19:30 ` Petteri Räty
2009-02-23 19:33 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-23 19:02 ` Alec Warner
2009-02-23 19:07 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-23 16:06 ` Peter Alfredsen
2009-02-23 16:11 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-23 19:22 ` Ryan Hill
2009-02-23 20:51 ` Luca Barbato
2009-02-23 20:54 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-23 22:15 ` Ryan Hill
2009-02-23 22:16 ` Ryan Hill
2009-02-23 22:19 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 13:55 ` Ferris McCormick
2009-02-24 14:14 ` Serkan Kaba
2009-02-28 13:04 ` Peter Volkov
2009-02-28 13:21 ` Matthias Schwarzott
2009-02-23 23:47 ` Richard Freeman
2009-02-23 23:49 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 0:17 ` Richard Freeman
2009-02-24 0:19 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 1:49 ` Richard Freeman
2009-02-24 14:22 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 16:24 ` Joe Peterson
2009-02-24 16:29 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 16:36 ` Joe Peterson
2009-02-24 16:43 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 20:41 ` Robert Bridge
2009-02-24 16:15 ` Joe Peterson
2009-02-24 16:21 ` Alec Warner
2009-02-24 16:23 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 16:33 ` Alec Warner
2009-02-24 16:37 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 16:42 ` Alec Warner
2009-02-24 16:48 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 18:56 ` Ryan Hill
2009-02-24 22:58 ` Luca Barbato
2009-02-24 16:21 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 16:45 ` Joe Peterson
2009-02-24 16:48 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 21:17 ` Roy Bamford
2009-02-24 21:23 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 21:24 ` Robert Bridge
2009-02-24 22:11 ` Roy Bamford
2009-02-24 22:14 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 1:01 ` Jim Ramsay
2009-02-23 13:21 ` Luca Barbato
2009-02-23 13:40 ` Thomas Anderson
2009-02-23 13:57 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-23 14:46 ` Luca Barbato
2009-02-23 14:59 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 7:08 ` [gentoo-dev] " Luca Barbato
2009-02-24 8:06 ` Alistair Bush
2009-02-24 9:09 ` Luca Barbato
2009-02-24 10:50 ` Alistair Bush
2009-02-24 12:15 ` Luca Barbato
2009-02-24 15:46 ` Richard Freeman
2009-02-24 15:56 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 16:29 ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2009-02-24 16:46 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 17:25 ` Jim Ramsay
2009-02-24 18:20 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 19:08 ` Jim Ramsay
2009-02-24 19:19 ` Ciaran McCreesh [this message]
2009-02-24 20:07 ` Jim Ramsay
2009-02-24 20:13 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 20:37 ` Jim Ramsay
2009-02-24 20:41 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 20:56 ` Jim Ramsay
2009-02-24 20:17 ` Richard Freeman
2009-02-24 20:25 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 21:46 ` Luca Barbato
2009-02-24 21:48 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 22:48 ` Luca Barbato
2009-02-24 22:58 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-25 6:34 ` Tiziano Müller
2009-02-25 15:28 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 9:29 ` George Shapovalov
2009-02-24 10:11 ` Alistair Bush
2009-02-24 14:19 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 16:04 ` Luca Barbato
2009-02-24 16:14 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 17:16 ` Luca Barbato
2009-02-24 18:24 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 19:28 ` Alexis Ballier
2009-02-24 19:37 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-25 8:33 ` Alexis Ballier
2009-02-25 15:30 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-25 16:17 ` Luca Barbato
2009-02-25 16:22 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-25 3:04 ` Luca Barbato
2009-02-25 15:33 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-25 15:56 ` Luca Barbato
2009-02-25 16:02 ` Thomas Anderson
2009-02-25 16:20 ` Luca Barbato
2009-02-25 16:02 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-25 2:34 ` [gentoo-dev] Issues regarding glep-55 Petteri Räty
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