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From: Ciaran McCreesh <ciaran.mccreesh@googlemail.com>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Issues regarding glep-55  (Was: [gentoo-council]  Re: Preliminary Meeting-Topics for 12 February 2009)
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 18:20:23 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090224182023.5d858986@snowcone> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090224122527.1e800f30@vrm378-02.vrm378.am.mot.com>

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On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 12:25:27 -0500
Jim Ramsay <lack@gentoo.org> wrote:
> > ...and it means we can't change name or version rules.
> > 
> > ...and it means over doubling the best possible time to work out a
> > dependency tree in the common case where the metadata cache is
> > valid.
> > 
> > ...and it means we can't make arbitrary format changes.
> 
> Those would all land in the category of "backwards compatibility"
> mentioned below, as they would all break current sourcing rules.

No, they're also future issues. Without glep 55, every time they come
up we have to go through the whole mess again.

> > Developers already have to stop and think and consult the
> > conveniently available table of features for EAPIs. By splitting
> > the EAPI concept in two you're doubling the amount of data to be
> > learnt.
>  
> I would think that this is a very small cost, and the benefit would be
> (I hope) that more people would agree on the solution and then we can
> go forward. Is that not a valid consideration?

I'd expect to see changes that would warrant a major bump in every
other EAPI or so anyway, so it's not really worth the complexity.

-- 
Ciaran McCreesh

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2009-02-23  2:15                             ` [gentoo-dev] Issues regarding glep-55 (Was: [gentoo-council] Re: Preliminary Meeting-Topics for 12 February 2009) Luca Barbato
2009-02-23  8:38                               ` [gentoo-dev] " Tiziano Müller
2009-02-23  8:52                                 ` Brian Harring
2009-02-23 13:45                                   ` Duncan
2009-02-23  9:25                                 ` Alistair Bush
2009-02-23 10:02                                   ` Tiziano Müller
2009-02-23 10:28                                     ` Douglas Anderson
2009-02-23 12:26                                       ` Brian Harring
2009-02-23 13:50                                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-23 14:15                                           ` Brian Harring
2009-02-23 14:23                                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-23 14:28                                       ` Richard Freeman
2009-02-23 14:36                                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-23 15:43                                         ` Steve Dibb
2009-02-23 15:53                                           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-23 16:13                                             ` Alexis Ballier
2009-02-23 16:19                                               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-23 16:48                                                 ` Alexis Ballier
2009-02-23 17:01                                                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-23 19:30                                                     ` Petteri Räty
2009-02-23 19:33                                                       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-23 19:02                                             ` Alec Warner
2009-02-23 19:07                                               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-23 16:06                                           ` Peter Alfredsen
2009-02-23 16:11                                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-23 19:22                                           ` Ryan Hill
2009-02-23 20:51                                             ` Luca Barbato
2009-02-23 20:54                                               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-23 22:15                                                 ` Ryan Hill
2009-02-23 22:16                                                   ` Ryan Hill
2009-02-23 22:19                                                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 13:55                                                     ` Ferris McCormick
2009-02-24 14:14                                                       ` Serkan Kaba
2009-02-28 13:04                                                         ` Peter Volkov
2009-02-28 13:21                                                           ` Matthias Schwarzott
2009-02-23 23:47                                             ` Richard Freeman
2009-02-23 23:49                                               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24  0:17                                                 ` Richard Freeman
2009-02-24  0:19                                                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24  1:49                                                     ` Richard Freeman
2009-02-24 14:22                                                       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 16:24                                               ` Joe Peterson
2009-02-24 16:29                                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 16:36                                                   ` Joe Peterson
2009-02-24 16:43                                                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 20:41                                                       ` Robert Bridge
2009-02-24 16:15                                         ` Joe Peterson
2009-02-24 16:21                                           ` Alec Warner
2009-02-24 16:23                                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 16:33                                               ` Alec Warner
2009-02-24 16:37                                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 16:42                                                   ` Alec Warner
2009-02-24 16:48                                                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 18:56                                             ` Ryan Hill
2009-02-24 22:58                                               ` Luca Barbato
2009-02-24 16:21                                           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 16:45                                             ` Joe Peterson
2009-02-24 16:48                                               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 21:17                                                 ` Roy Bamford
2009-02-24 21:23                                                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 21:24                                                     ` Robert Bridge
2009-02-24 22:11                                                     ` Roy Bamford
2009-02-24 22:14                                                       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24  1:01                                   ` Jim Ramsay
2009-02-23 13:21                                 ` Luca Barbato
2009-02-23 13:40                                   ` Thomas Anderson
2009-02-23 13:57                               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-23 14:46                                 ` Luca Barbato
2009-02-23 14:59                                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24  7:08                               ` [gentoo-dev] " Luca Barbato
2009-02-24  8:06                                 ` Alistair Bush
2009-02-24  9:09                                   ` Luca Barbato
2009-02-24 10:50                                     ` Alistair Bush
2009-02-24 12:15                                       ` Luca Barbato
2009-02-24 15:46                                       ` Richard Freeman
2009-02-24 15:56                                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 16:29                                           ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2009-02-24 16:46                                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 17:25                                           ` Jim Ramsay
2009-02-24 18:20                                             ` Ciaran McCreesh [this message]
2009-02-24 19:08                                               ` Jim Ramsay
2009-02-24 19:19                                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 20:07                                                   ` Jim Ramsay
2009-02-24 20:13                                                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 20:37                                                       ` Jim Ramsay
2009-02-24 20:41                                                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 20:56                                                           ` Jim Ramsay
2009-02-24 20:17                                           ` Richard Freeman
2009-02-24 20:25                                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 21:46                                               ` Luca Barbato
2009-02-24 21:48                                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 22:48                                                   ` Luca Barbato
2009-02-24 22:58                                                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-25  6:34                                                       ` Tiziano Müller
2009-02-25 15:28                                                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24  9:29                                 ` George Shapovalov
2009-02-24 10:11                                   ` Alistair Bush
2009-02-24 14:19                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 16:04                                   ` Luca Barbato
2009-02-24 16:14                                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 17:16                                       ` Luca Barbato
2009-02-24 18:24                                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 19:28                                           ` Alexis Ballier
2009-02-24 19:37                                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-25  8:33                                               ` Alexis Ballier
2009-02-25 15:30                                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-25 16:17                                                   ` Luca Barbato
2009-02-25 16:22                                                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-25  3:04                                           ` Luca Barbato
2009-02-25 15:33                                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-25 15:56                                               ` Luca Barbato
2009-02-25 16:02                                                 ` Thomas Anderson
2009-02-25 16:20                                                   ` Luca Barbato
2009-02-25 16:02                                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-25  2:34                               ` [gentoo-dev] Issues regarding glep-55 Petteri Räty

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