From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LbeBA-0005L2-GU for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 23 Feb 2009 17:01:16 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 62093E039C; Mon, 23 Feb 2009 17:01:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-fx0-f161.google.com (mail-fx0-f161.google.com [209.85.220.161]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3244E039C for ; Mon, 23 Feb 2009 17:01:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm5 with SMTP id 5so1926940fxm.10 for ; Mon, 23 Feb 2009 09:01:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type; bh=CF1bX5abOg9Oy4omRiH+8BoeFSKcpceeUiwseMuQd6Y=; b=ik8snUyGIC9f0uKR+TSY9zuwWKbm1fWSEw9awqzZQXZAAJUv9pwi9kW/rKHU1ZY/Kg x9W99l3X9jp1XVx3APdZys6TgKqU3Df8J5zxp+ra+PuCUg6IambwVZLuFcJkM59jy3bt iyZH+Xf/W3cp1/UoiMJYnROJvAdg+2jXjRR5M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type; b=RDBqFhGddrxNT2QMPSTt48OzE+AD0+pmiUQS180d58vGEOx2nZorCDefe2vaUi/stl VD7fLlYY/6PLGAnAfsmHZCHFHEhV7ouw4IY8gmHFRHLyvzgT0hWk+pwdR0rFmPEtWkmd JAaqCCS9EOCPP9xGQnWnrUL7MXdvEr4mVqiA4= Received: by 10.103.93.18 with SMTP id v18mr3478341mul.43.1235408473247; Mon, 23 Feb 2009 09:01:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from snowcone (92-235-187-79.cable.ubr18.sgyl.blueyonder.co.uk [92.235.187.79]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u7sm3753946uge.47.2009.02.23.09.01.12 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 23 Feb 2009 09:01:12 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 17:01:03 +0000 From: Ciaran McCreesh To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Issues regarding glep-55 (Was: [gentoo-council] Re: Preliminary Meeting-Topics for 12 February 2009) Message-ID: <20090223170103.14429f5a@snowcone> In-Reply-To: <20090223174827.7a7906ff@gentoo.org> References: <1234257125.18160.2016.camel@localhost> <20090219125124.33eaa66c@snowcone> <1235077892.13198.1923.camel@localhost> <20090222171658.278ae167@halo.dirtyepic.sk.ca> <49A1E1CB.1000806@gentoo.org> <20090222234800.29d64b8d@snowcone> <49A206A7.3050604@gentoo.org> <1235378286.31617.6.camel@neuromancer.neuronics-tp.ch> <49A26B84.7040006@gentoo.org> <1235383347.12908.0.camel@neuromancer.neuronics-tp.ch> <49A2B276.1000109@gentoo.org> <49A2C40D.3060601@gentoo.org> <20090223155320.4b9f16fd@snowcone> <20090223171316.5d8f94d0@gentoo.org> <20090223161956.189ab5ea@snowcone> <20090223174827.7a7906ff@gentoo.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.14.7; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/VCQcNQyOeMAxufp1C/RANuq"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 X-Archives-Salt: 7e09e3a2-150b-4682-a6c5-ad5a6f157ed3 X-Archives-Hash: e2ee86bc7bcee65e6d78a7d7aab083ea --Sig_/VCQcNQyOeMAxufp1C/RANuq Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 17:48:27 +0100 Alexis Ballier wrote: > > ...and then we have to do the whole thing again every time something > > new crops up. >=20 > Please give an example because I fail to see how. New version suffix rules. New bash versions. New package naming rules. Partially composable EAPIs. Tree-provided internals. Consistent variable namespacing. Metadata via function calls. > > EAPI was supposed to solve this, and profile eapi and > > GLEP 55 finish the job. Repeatedly going back and saying "oh, we > > have to wait another year or more again" is unacceptable. >=20 > Had we found a compromise at the beginning of glep55, that extra year > would be over by now... And we'd be starting on the next batch of "oh, we need to wait another year". Had GLEP 55's necessity been accepted a year ago, we'd have a whole bunch of requested features implemented by now. --=20 Ciaran McCreesh --Sig_/VCQcNQyOeMAxufp1C/RANuq Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkmi1lQACgkQ96zL6DUtXhHYPQCgmbh5gfeJdSk3sqHjNyS8+U4f IrQAoIDx2v2MLdhNOcHqb7ODj6Ks9KBA =j3V+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/VCQcNQyOeMAxufp1C/RANuq--