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From: Ciaran McCreesh <ciaran.mccreesh@googlemail.com>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Issues regarding glep-55 (Was: [gentoo-council] Re: Preliminary Meeting-Topics for 12 February 2009)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 15:53:20 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090223155320.4b9f16fd@snowcone> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <49A2C40D.3060601@gentoo.org>

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On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 08:43:09 -0700
Steve Dibb <beandog@gentoo.org> wrote:
> Plus, I don't really grasp the whole "we have to source the whole
> ebuild to know the EAPI version" argument.  It's one variable, in one
> line. Can't a simple parser get that and go from there?

Not true. This is entirely legal:

In pkg-1.ebuild:

    EAPI="${PV}"
    printf -v EAPI '%s' 4
    inherit foo
    EAPI="2"

In foo.eclass:

    EAPI="3"

And in this case, the package manager has to know that EAPI=2, and it
has to use EAPI 2's behaviour for performing the inherit.

In fact, it gets worse if you consider that future EAPIs will probably
allow per-package eclasses. So you could end up with this crazy
situation:

In pkg-1.ebuild:

    require pkg

In cat/pkg/pkg.eclass:

    EAPI="3"

In global pkg.eclass:

    EAPI="2"

So here you can't even use a faked pre-source EAPI. If you assume EAPI
0 beforehand, the global pkg.eclass will be used, so EAPI will end up
as 2. But if you assume EAPI 3 beforehand, the per-pkg eclass will be
used, so the EAPI will end up as 3.

It gets even crazier if you put EAPI="2" in the per-pkg eclass and
EAPI="3" in the global one instead...

And whilst this is clearly a deliberate example of how to create
craziness, the only difference between this and the real world is that
the craziness is obvious here. The current rules really are this
complicated, and we can't retroactively fix them.

-- 
Ciaran McCreesh

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2009-02-23  2:15                             ` [gentoo-dev] Issues regarding glep-55 (Was: [gentoo-council] Re: Preliminary Meeting-Topics for 12 February 2009) Luca Barbato
2009-02-23  8:38                               ` [gentoo-dev] " Tiziano Müller
2009-02-23  8:52                                 ` Brian Harring
2009-02-23 13:45                                   ` Duncan
2009-02-23  9:25                                 ` Alistair Bush
2009-02-23 10:02                                   ` Tiziano Müller
2009-02-23 10:28                                     ` Douglas Anderson
2009-02-23 12:26                                       ` Brian Harring
2009-02-23 13:50                                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-23 14:15                                           ` Brian Harring
2009-02-23 14:23                                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-23 14:28                                       ` Richard Freeman
2009-02-23 14:36                                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-23 15:43                                         ` Steve Dibb
2009-02-23 15:53                                           ` Ciaran McCreesh [this message]
2009-02-23 16:13                                             ` Alexis Ballier
2009-02-23 16:19                                               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-23 16:48                                                 ` Alexis Ballier
2009-02-23 17:01                                                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-23 19:30                                                     ` Petteri Räty
2009-02-23 19:33                                                       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-23 19:02                                             ` Alec Warner
2009-02-23 19:07                                               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-23 16:06                                           ` Peter Alfredsen
2009-02-23 16:11                                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-23 19:22                                           ` Ryan Hill
2009-02-23 20:51                                             ` Luca Barbato
2009-02-23 20:54                                               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-23 22:15                                                 ` Ryan Hill
2009-02-23 22:16                                                   ` Ryan Hill
2009-02-23 22:19                                                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 13:55                                                     ` Ferris McCormick
2009-02-24 14:14                                                       ` Serkan Kaba
2009-02-28 13:04                                                         ` Peter Volkov
2009-02-28 13:21                                                           ` Matthias Schwarzott
2009-02-23 23:47                                             ` Richard Freeman
2009-02-23 23:49                                               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24  0:17                                                 ` Richard Freeman
2009-02-24  0:19                                                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24  1:49                                                     ` Richard Freeman
2009-02-24 14:22                                                       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 16:24                                               ` Joe Peterson
2009-02-24 16:29                                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 16:36                                                   ` Joe Peterson
2009-02-24 16:43                                                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 20:41                                                       ` Robert Bridge
2009-02-24 16:15                                         ` Joe Peterson
2009-02-24 16:21                                           ` Alec Warner
2009-02-24 16:23                                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 16:33                                               ` Alec Warner
2009-02-24 16:37                                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 16:42                                                   ` Alec Warner
2009-02-24 16:48                                                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 18:56                                             ` Ryan Hill
2009-02-24 22:58                                               ` Luca Barbato
2009-02-24 16:21                                           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 16:45                                             ` Joe Peterson
2009-02-24 16:48                                               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 21:17                                                 ` Roy Bamford
2009-02-24 21:23                                                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 21:24                                                     ` Robert Bridge
2009-02-24 22:11                                                     ` Roy Bamford
2009-02-24 22:14                                                       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24  1:01                                   ` Jim Ramsay
2009-02-23 13:21                                 ` Luca Barbato
2009-02-23 13:40                                   ` Thomas Anderson
2009-02-23 13:57                               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-23 14:46                                 ` Luca Barbato
2009-02-23 14:59                                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24  7:08                               ` [gentoo-dev] " Luca Barbato
2009-02-24  8:06                                 ` Alistair Bush
2009-02-24  9:09                                   ` Luca Barbato
2009-02-24 10:50                                     ` Alistair Bush
2009-02-24 12:15                                       ` Luca Barbato
2009-02-24 15:46                                       ` Richard Freeman
2009-02-24 15:56                                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 16:29                                           ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2009-02-24 16:46                                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 17:25                                           ` Jim Ramsay
2009-02-24 18:20                                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 19:08                                               ` Jim Ramsay
2009-02-24 19:19                                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 20:07                                                   ` Jim Ramsay
2009-02-24 20:13                                                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 20:37                                                       ` Jim Ramsay
2009-02-24 20:41                                                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 20:56                                                           ` Jim Ramsay
2009-02-24 20:17                                           ` Richard Freeman
2009-02-24 20:25                                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 21:46                                               ` Luca Barbato
2009-02-24 21:48                                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 22:48                                                   ` Luca Barbato
2009-02-24 22:58                                                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-25  6:34                                                       ` Tiziano Müller
2009-02-25 15:28                                                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24  9:29                                 ` George Shapovalov
2009-02-24 10:11                                   ` Alistair Bush
2009-02-24 14:19                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 16:04                                   ` Luca Barbato
2009-02-24 16:14                                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 17:16                                       ` Luca Barbato
2009-02-24 18:24                                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 19:28                                           ` Alexis Ballier
2009-02-24 19:37                                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-25  8:33                                               ` Alexis Ballier
2009-02-25 15:30                                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-25 16:17                                                   ` Luca Barbato
2009-02-25 16:22                                                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-25  3:04                                           ` Luca Barbato
2009-02-25 15:33                                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-25 15:56                                               ` Luca Barbato
2009-02-25 16:02                                                 ` Thomas Anderson
2009-02-25 16:20                                                   ` Luca Barbato
2009-02-25 16:02                                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-25  2:34                               ` [gentoo-dev] Issues regarding glep-55 Petteri Räty

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