From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Lbba5-0001wy-JI for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 23 Feb 2009 14:14:49 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3EE84E0281; Mon, 23 Feb 2009 14:14:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.169]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12B48E0281 for ; Mon, 23 Feb 2009 14:14:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 29so2208825wff.10 for ; Mon, 23 Feb 2009 06:14:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=wdbr5o/+9cJY2DzAdIYnjY4gJ9923hFA7qyC9hv10VY=; b=GrbLYJH8UcnqC5eoFIW5rK4ma12r9rTWMFeoqH1YOPEa+qIaLAVTpJkpB7hrMhDuuQ U4t5dU1mII/+d5SiIGbZTKpW4FNGd3GnZmDegqrxfBSyu7Q9afo11lzp+3IOHuwrna8j S5D/duSrPYNV0l3rxkBgrLQNIz/LDzOX+FaAU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=n26iRkc67Iw8On0BodHm9EqPURv0bsi2pbIkybU4TXRko/nclRuy26fRN9Qmp38Z65 v8CozsVX+uMAsX+9DKrwqaHhwUNvdi1tnIJzbQVM0MWsqSW3vTAWKdzb++xKzGwXnyeo mRl62v+i1jISyNuECcXuLdJLuQIXGeN4YnZNc= Received: by 10.142.50.6 with SMTP id x6mr1998468wfx.218.1235398487672; Mon, 23 Feb 2009 06:14:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.gmail.com (c-98-210-196-21.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [98.210.196.21]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 30sm10963924wfg.54.2009.02.23.06.14.45 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 23 Feb 2009 06:14:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by smtp.gmail.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 23 Feb 2009 06:15:25 -0800 Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 06:15:25 -0800 From: Brian Harring To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Issues regarding glep-55 (Was: [gentoo-council] Re: Preliminary Meeting-Topics for 12 February 2009) Message-ID: <20090223141525.GB3487@hrair.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> References: <20090222171658.278ae167@halo.dirtyepic.sk.ca> <49A1E1CB.1000806@gentoo.org> <20090222234800.29d64b8d@snowcone> <49A206A7.3050604@gentoo.org> <1235378286.31617.6.camel@neuromancer.neuronics-tp.ch> <49A26B84.7040006@gentoo.org> <1235383347.12908.0.camel@neuromancer.neuronics-tp.ch> <20090223122648.GA3487@hrair.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> <20090223135010.05e9435f@snowcone> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ADZbWkCsHQ7r3kzd" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090223135010.05e9435f@snowcone> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) X-Archives-Salt: e3dab6b9-687f-44f7-9ea3-18eaeea39e17 X-Archives-Hash: ac66970638675cec5c185a2b4f843300 --ADZbWkCsHQ7r3kzd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 01:50:10PM +0000, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 04:26:49 -0800 > Brian Harring wrote: > > There also is the angle that deploying g55 requires waiting at least > > a full stage release (~year, at least by the old standards) to ensure= =20 > > people aren't screwed by the repository changing formats=20 > > (unversioned!) under their feet. >=20 > No it doesn't. It's transparent to users using an older package manager. Would be useful if someone pulled older portage versions and checked=20 exactly what they do in this case- explode, behave, etc (manifest=20 behaviour included). It's been several years, but I recall portage=20 having problems at the onset of EAPI w/ it. Beyond that, what I was stating was that the user doesn't get told=20 "sorry, your manager is too old, upgrade"- kind of an unobvious=20 failing. Frankly, in terms of g55 I don't particularly care if it were=20 implemented- although I'd rather see it go in a seperate repo along w/=20 the dozen other fixups needed, preferably starting w/ overlays... ~harring --ADZbWkCsHQ7r3kzd Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkmir30ACgkQsiLx3HvNzgcUiwCeO9Y4QhVJhUmcEJTn6FRO02Nq wYIAoM/6XS1//cQEkFoMcs3hEJ+e7RE/ =mgUi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ADZbWkCsHQ7r3kzd--