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From: Brian Harring <ferringb@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Issues regarding glep-55  (Was: [gentoo-council] Re: Preliminary Meeting-Topics for 12 February 2009)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 00:52:32 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090223085232.GA6492@hrair> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1235378286.31617.6.camel@neuromancer.neuronics-tp.ch>

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On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 09:38:06AM +0100, Tiziano M??ller wrote:
> > What is proposed in glep-55 seems to aim to solve both issues at the 
> > same time (it isn't stated) by switching file extension every time the 
> > eapi is changed. This is slightly against the principle of the least 
> > surprise and apparently is disliked by enough people to lead the 
> > situation to be discussed in the council.
> > 
> 
> Instead of switching file extension every time the eapi is changed you
> could also increment it only when a new EAPI breaks sourcing the ebuild
> compared to the requirements of the prior EAPI.
> (This way you'd in fact split EAPI into a major- and a minor-version.)

Complicates the implementation (annoying), but more importantly 
negates one of the features of g55- being able to tell via the 
extension if the manager supports that EAPI.

Honestly, the issue isn't breaking sourcing (literally unable to 
source it) of the ebuild as much as sourcing it *wrong*- simplest 
example, new metadata key is added in eapi 1.3, compliant 
implementations have to pull that key out of the env and put it in the 
cache.  Sourcing on the surface, would succeed- but the results would 
be worthless (it'd basically be similar to the situation now).

~brian

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2009-02-23  2:15                             ` [gentoo-dev] Issues regarding glep-55 (Was: [gentoo-council] Re: Preliminary Meeting-Topics for 12 February 2009) Luca Barbato
2009-02-23  8:38                               ` [gentoo-dev] " Tiziano Müller
2009-02-23  8:52                                 ` Brian Harring [this message]
2009-02-23 13:45                                   ` Duncan
2009-02-23  9:25                                 ` Alistair Bush
2009-02-23 10:02                                   ` Tiziano Müller
2009-02-23 10:28                                     ` Douglas Anderson
2009-02-23 12:26                                       ` Brian Harring
2009-02-23 13:50                                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-23 14:15                                           ` Brian Harring
2009-02-23 14:23                                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-23 14:28                                       ` Richard Freeman
2009-02-23 14:36                                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-23 15:43                                         ` Steve Dibb
2009-02-23 15:53                                           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-23 16:13                                             ` Alexis Ballier
2009-02-23 16:19                                               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-23 16:48                                                 ` Alexis Ballier
2009-02-23 17:01                                                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-23 19:30                                                     ` Petteri Räty
2009-02-23 19:33                                                       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-23 19:02                                             ` Alec Warner
2009-02-23 19:07                                               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-23 16:06                                           ` Peter Alfredsen
2009-02-23 16:11                                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-23 19:22                                           ` Ryan Hill
2009-02-23 20:51                                             ` Luca Barbato
2009-02-23 20:54                                               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-23 22:15                                                 ` Ryan Hill
2009-02-23 22:16                                                   ` Ryan Hill
2009-02-23 22:19                                                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 13:55                                                     ` Ferris McCormick
2009-02-24 14:14                                                       ` Serkan Kaba
2009-02-28 13:04                                                         ` Peter Volkov
2009-02-28 13:21                                                           ` Matthias Schwarzott
2009-02-23 23:47                                             ` Richard Freeman
2009-02-23 23:49                                               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24  0:17                                                 ` Richard Freeman
2009-02-24  0:19                                                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24  1:49                                                     ` Richard Freeman
2009-02-24 14:22                                                       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 16:24                                               ` Joe Peterson
2009-02-24 16:29                                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 16:36                                                   ` Joe Peterson
2009-02-24 16:43                                                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 20:41                                                       ` Robert Bridge
2009-02-24 16:15                                         ` Joe Peterson
2009-02-24 16:21                                           ` Alec Warner
2009-02-24 16:23                                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 16:33                                               ` Alec Warner
2009-02-24 16:37                                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 16:42                                                   ` Alec Warner
2009-02-24 16:48                                                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 18:56                                             ` Ryan Hill
2009-02-24 22:58                                               ` Luca Barbato
2009-02-24 16:21                                           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 16:45                                             ` Joe Peterson
2009-02-24 16:48                                               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 21:17                                                 ` Roy Bamford
2009-02-24 21:23                                                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 21:24                                                     ` Robert Bridge
2009-02-24 22:11                                                     ` Roy Bamford
2009-02-24 22:14                                                       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24  1:01                                   ` Jim Ramsay
2009-02-23 13:21                                 ` Luca Barbato
2009-02-23 13:40                                   ` Thomas Anderson
2009-02-23 13:57                               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-23 14:46                                 ` Luca Barbato
2009-02-23 14:59                                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24  7:08                               ` [gentoo-dev] " Luca Barbato
2009-02-24  8:06                                 ` Alistair Bush
2009-02-24  9:09                                   ` Luca Barbato
2009-02-24 10:50                                     ` Alistair Bush
2009-02-24 12:15                                       ` Luca Barbato
2009-02-24 15:46                                       ` Richard Freeman
2009-02-24 15:56                                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 16:29                                           ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2009-02-24 16:46                                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 17:25                                           ` Jim Ramsay
2009-02-24 18:20                                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 19:08                                               ` Jim Ramsay
2009-02-24 19:19                                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 20:07                                                   ` Jim Ramsay
2009-02-24 20:13                                                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 20:37                                                       ` Jim Ramsay
2009-02-24 20:41                                                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 20:56                                                           ` Jim Ramsay
2009-02-24 20:17                                           ` Richard Freeman
2009-02-24 20:25                                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 21:46                                               ` Luca Barbato
2009-02-24 21:48                                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 22:48                                                   ` Luca Barbato
2009-02-24 22:58                                                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-25  6:34                                                       ` Tiziano Müller
2009-02-25 15:28                                                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24  9:29                                 ` George Shapovalov
2009-02-24 10:11                                   ` Alistair Bush
2009-02-24 14:19                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 16:04                                   ` Luca Barbato
2009-02-24 16:14                                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 17:16                                       ` Luca Barbato
2009-02-24 18:24                                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-24 19:28                                           ` Alexis Ballier
2009-02-24 19:37                                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-25  8:33                                               ` Alexis Ballier
2009-02-25 15:30                                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-25 16:17                                                   ` Luca Barbato
2009-02-25 16:22                                                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-25  3:04                                           ` Luca Barbato
2009-02-25 15:33                                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-25 15:56                                               ` Luca Barbato
2009-02-25 16:02                                                 ` Thomas Anderson
2009-02-25 16:20                                                   ` Luca Barbato
2009-02-25 16:02                                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-25  2:34                               ` [gentoo-dev] Issues regarding glep-55 Petteri Räty

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