From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LZvK1-0005JS-5h for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 18 Feb 2009 22:55:17 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E6E74E04C9; Wed, 18 Feb 2009 22:55:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-bw0-f157.google.com (mail-bw0-f157.google.com [209.85.218.157]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89873E04C9 for ; Wed, 18 Feb 2009 22:55:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz1 with SMTP id 1so369358bwz.10 for ; Wed, 18 Feb 2009 14:55:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type; bh=f1GVnINMyeDRkO2g2Mx7gk4R7Z/3pu1aZSPL7x60rDg=; b=u7YBlFboZIM1x3AlfYumCgL6lovmvR954IHtawsUfbTDxQ2hEWfdL5Qjd21PL8WHVC H11/0LoGj1t7xtt8oc5Iu4FtuyDkPqQHQB2UUvCVBDLI5gg8c25IXdVDA/j9rpRl73ts LpdLrurtPsLSBRywrhzJLZYlFyWoUJWVqrn5g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type; b=sJliQmbb+KGslcl6MFMoVMWMcPSHPcDlNLBWm6wag8walAPjuUaRBVrYLuJQvE0xVk SJe/tnTh+YBpwH74eW5fm9DcMTBmYPYLQFiUwJVeRx2hwc9r2n2KTNqiJXGRkWEE8sfo 7BNFUSEL9rnwvpmuAe7CNjt5MQ9MmKhbuOKRs= Received: by 10.223.106.68 with SMTP id w4mr457125fao.20.1234997714218; Wed, 18 Feb 2009 14:55:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from snowcone (92-235-187-79.cable.ubr18.sgyl.blueyonder.co.uk [92.235.187.79]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k30sm1160794ugc.29.2009.02.18.14.55.13 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 18 Feb 2009 14:55:13 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 22:55:06 +0000 From: Ciaran McCreesh To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] `paludis --info' is not like `emerge --info' Message-ID: <20090218225506.14b91815@snowcone> In-Reply-To: <20090218232212.5452b86d@epia.jer-c2.orkz.net> References: <20090218232212.5452b86d@epia.jer-c2.orkz.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.14.7; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/kPWWhpoBxQFwOCsGjl=DrKY"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 X-Archives-Salt: 852c1e2c-e3f8-4fbe-bcc0-ed0b17d11b2a X-Archives-Hash: 725b79af32af8479478648ae894c0bd0 --Sig_/kPWWhpoBxQFwOCsGjl=DrKY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 23:22:12 +0100 Jeroen Roovers wrote: > Paludis users often seem to think that `paludis --info' and `emerge > --info' are interchangeable, whereas a quick inspection reveals to > even the most casual user that the former only intends to inform about > paludis' own compile time and run time configuration, whereas the > latter includes information about a number of critical system > packages, the global USE and USE_EXPAND variables and GENTOO_MIRRORS > variable, to name a few. ...which is why you ask for 'paludis --info pkg', not 'paludis --info'. That way you get accurate information about pkg, even when users have per-package use flags configured. Much more useful than Portage's misleading output, which just gives global configuration and completely ignores everything else. Heck, Paludis even tells you this if you run --info without a spec: > No packages were specified on the command line, so detailed > information is not available (Paludis can display detailed information > for both installed and installable packages). Please try harder next time. --=20 Ciaran McCreesh --Sig_/kPWWhpoBxQFwOCsGjl=DrKY Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkmckc0ACgkQ96zL6DUtXhHwtwCbB7BD6J5ZBHLS3mo6maS97pxq klkAoN+morpUMBbNOlMCkecIPz9Cqljd =rvjP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/kPWWhpoBxQFwOCsGjl=DrKY--