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From: Ciaran McCreesh <ciaran.mccreesh@googlemail.com>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] prepalldocs is now banned
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 19:06:30 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090218190630.1c12ee7a@snowcone> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090218200104.291e07bc@gentoo.org>

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On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 20:01:04 +0100
Alexis Ballier <aballier@gentoo.org> wrote:
> > If you really, genuinely think you have a case for compression of
> > docs, backed up with statistics showing that it's a relevant change,
> 
> I fail to see why you need statistics for something that is clearly a
> waste of space, but this could be a start:
> http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/msg_9018a9f64cd32ba85494887ffe3edf78.xml

Because if you look at the statistics, it's pretty obvious that it's a
stupid idea. If you've got USE=doc, somewhere around 4% of managed
files are in /usr/share/doc, and once you take inode sizes into
account, you can knock that down to about 3% -- and this is for people
who are already turning on a use flag that wouldn't be on on
space-relevant systems.

> > then you should write a proposal for future EAPIs for handling it,
> 
> I don't understand why something that has been there for ages has to
> die. For what I've seen, the major (and only) problem with prepalldocs
> is its definition and I'm sure we can find one that everybody will
> agree with.

Because killing it is better than keeping it. It's solving an
irrelevant problem the wrong way.

> > and you should do it in such a way that it works automatically for
> > all ebuilds, without any developer intervention (but providing some
> > way for ebuilds to disable it where necessary).
> 
> This is probably a good start:
> http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/msg_eb1f7952eb2f0fe725bde331a4d9ae30.xml

Can you demonstrate that it's even remotely useful?

-- 
Ciaran McCreesh

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-02-18 19:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-02-13 21:30 [gentoo-dev] prepalldocs is now banned Thomas Anderson
2009-02-17 22:26 ` Thilo Bangert
2009-02-18  0:10   ` Michael Sterrett
2009-02-18  0:18     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-18  7:39       ` Alexis Ballier
2009-02-18  8:33         ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-02-18 14:06         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-18 15:18           ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-02-18 15:21             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-18 15:46               ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-02-18 15:50                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-18 19:01                   ` Alexis Ballier
2009-02-18 19:06                     ` Ciaran McCreesh [this message]
2009-02-18 19:37                       ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-02-19 11:06                     ` [gentoo-dev] Proposal for compression handling (was: Re: prepalldocs is now banned) Ulrich Mueller
2009-02-19 21:25                       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-19 22:03                         ` [gentoo-dev] Proposal for compression handling Ulrich Mueller
2009-02-20  7:42                           ` Brian Harring
2009-02-20  7:59                             ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-02-21 23:09                               ` Zac Medico
2009-02-22  9:57                                 ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-02-18 18:28           ` [gentoo-dev] prepalldocs is now banned Alexis Ballier
2009-02-18 18:36             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-18 19:19               ` Alexis Ballier
2009-02-18 10:29   ` Petteri Räty
2009-02-18  8:07 ` Michael Sterrett
2009-02-18  8:13   ` [gentoo-dev] prepalldocs implementation in eutils.eclass (was: prepalldocs is now banned) Torsten Veller
2009-02-18  8:22     ` Michael Sterrett
2009-02-18  8:48       ` [gentoo-dev] Re: prepalldocs implementation in eutils.eclass Torsten Veller
2009-02-19  9:11       ` [gentoo-dev] prepalldocs implementation in eutils.eclass (was: prepalldocs is now banned) Tiziano Müller
2009-02-19  9:37         ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-02-19  9:47           ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2009-02-19 10:00             ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-02-19 11:20               ` Tiziano Müller
2009-02-19 11:28                 ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-02-19 11:21           ` Tiziano Müller
2009-02-19 10:57         ` [gentoo-dev] prepalldocs implementation in eutils.eclass Luca Barbato
2009-02-19 18:26         ` [gentoo-dev] prepalldocs implementation in eutils.eclass (was: prepalldocs is now banned) Matti Bickel
2009-02-18 10:26   ` [gentoo-dev] prepalldocs is now banned Petteri Räty
2009-02-18 19:07     ` Tobias Scherbaum
2009-02-18 18:42   ` Donnie Berkholz
2009-02-18 19:01     ` Michael Sterrett
2009-02-18 19:08       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-18 21:25         ` Donnie Berkholz

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