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From: Steve Long <slong@rathaus.eclipse.co.uk>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-dev]  Re: new categories:
Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 19:22:00 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <gma5hc$mmq$1@ger.gmane.org> (raw)
Message-ID: <20090203192200.F4yb71arZnELc9Mso7rXUjsTmVhNwarlxuykIoHwc1w@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 7c612fc60902030534t3f64ef48wb0fa0968159710e8@mail.gmail.com

Denis Dupeyron wrote:

> On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 11:47 AM, George Shapovalov <george@gentoo.org>
> wrote:
>> Besides, in my opinion, the ability to see "what's there" in at least
>> minimally categorized way without having to resort to using some special
>> tools or going to some website is worht something. In this vain I was
>> proposing going the opposite direction - to allow arbitrary nesting of
>> categories, like going sci-math -> sci/math and deeper (then packages
>> would naturally be specified by "FQEN" - fully qualified ebuild names).
>> Its not like tree walker would be the most complex part of code in
>> portage..
> 
> Actually we'd want both tags and nesting. They don't address the same
> issue.
> 
> Arbitrary nesting of categories allows better management and storing
> of ebuilds. It could also allow a meta-ebuild to depend on a whole
> subcategory to ease maintenance of said meta-ebuild. It's more a
> developer's feature.
>
That sounds very similar to sets? Sorry if I'm missing something obvious,
but I thought sets were used with kde4; if they are unavailable to the
ebuild author, perhaps a suitably-defined extension (for in-tree sets)
might be useful?
The obvious advantage being that they are not tied to a specific category,
ofc; could you expand a bit on 'better management and storing'?

> Tags allow ebuilds to appear as being pertinent to more
> (sub-)categories than just the one they're stored into. It may help
> some of us locate packages they need in a better and/or faster way.
> It's more of a user's feature.
> 
Tags sound cool. I'm opposed to losing the current single flat category
schema, fwtw, unless it enables something majorly-useful. It's *way* better
than other distros (I am deadset against losing all categorisation) and
still nice and immediate.





  reply	other threads:[~2009-02-03 19:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-02-01 17:32 [gentoo-dev] new categories: (was: Last Rites: games-puzzle/ksudoku) Norberto Bensa
2009-02-01 18:20 ` AllenJB
2009-02-01 18:58 ` Rémi Cardona
2009-02-03  1:10   ` Mart Raudsepp
2009-02-02 21:15 ` Luca Barbato
2009-02-02 21:41   ` Norberto Bensa
2009-02-02 22:10   ` Maciej Mrozowski
2009-02-03  1:17     ` [gentoo-dev] Category tags on packages (was: new categories:) Mart Raudsepp
2009-02-03  2:49       ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2009-02-04 10:20         ` Luca Barbato
2009-02-08 17:59         ` Federico Ferri
2009-02-08 18:10           ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2009-02-08 18:11             ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2009-02-08 18:46               ` Tiziano Müller
2009-02-08 18:29             ` Federico Ferri
2009-02-08 19:07               ` Angelo Arrifano
2009-02-08 19:17                 ` Rémi Cardona
2009-02-08 22:19                 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ryan Hill
2009-02-08 22:34                   ` Federico Ferri
2009-02-08 18:51           ` [gentoo-dev] " Tiziano Müller
2009-02-09 22:43             ` Maciej Mrozowski
2009-02-03  7:10     ` [gentoo-dev] new categories: Josh Saddler
2009-02-03 10:47       ` George Shapovalov
2009-02-03 13:34         ` Denis Dupeyron
2009-02-03 19:21           ` Steve Long [this message]
2009-02-03 19:22             ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long

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