From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KzbQD-0006C0-0Q for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2008 18:23:33 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 087E3E01DC; Mon, 10 Nov 2008 18:23:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.168]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C10B4E01DC for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2008 18:23:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 30so472852ugs.39 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2008 10:23:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type; bh=IlWTVVHMdtCChcYt97gfMOurdjpt4ojphYT1klGkFxc=; b=dRNl+crmdnzhhbZ37t8zBdvJwA3Kyp2yQJpdt3UzzuI3lJWpxKGcit/XhKghxPB2qv pRpROt6CxMUQnYkGlqDC426j/Yjr7j48hOkx1SKwzRVYstxCF1ggG3HANcR+hDeFEvjw i09pgwlGH/HmcbiZCIMjPL0m+NJPFtyk0Pcjs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type; b=qef5mvY4Bszpl6Tp3mXEpF/8GxKy3JybyOOI5kXuVNsz1ou5bqW9fNdDoCtu+VDnxF YvdapScuhbFhvdpH/AyWf5CCAzOht+pFNlV4AerRIbYCHv+9QgN15JVO8Npt1JYIdzH9 CVNB1UqWUx5eS8Xvhq188i2RTM74XbaBQhC+4= Received: by 10.67.32.18 with SMTP id k18mr2291877ugj.27.1226341409587; Mon, 10 Nov 2008 10:23:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from snowcone (92-235-187-79.cable.ubr18.edin.blueyonder.co.uk [92.235.187.79]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y6sm4024668uge.28.2008.11.10.10.23.27 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 10 Nov 2008 10:23:28 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 18:23:19 +0000 From: Ciaran McCreesh To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal for how to handle stable ebuilds Message-ID: <20081110182319.032930f2@snowcone> In-Reply-To: <20081110181334.GD7038@aerie.halcy0n.com> References: <20081110181334.GD7038@aerie.halcy0n.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.6.1 (GTK+ 2.14.4; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/MEkY=xj8Hp2I0nsfnBil0VM"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 X-Archives-Salt: 5a83cb14-9663-4443-8021-af301c821342 X-Archives-Hash: 84098e49c7f2496be1b28895364ab6dd --Sig_/MEkY=xj8Hp2I0nsfnBil0VM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 13:13:34 -0500 Mark Loeser wrote: > Arch teams will normally have 30 days from the day a bug was filed, > keyworded STABLEREQ, the arch was CCed, and the maintainer either > filed the bug or commented that it was OK to stabilize (clock starts > when all of these conditions are met). 30 days is a minimum, not a maximum. > If an ebuild meets the time criteria above, and there are no > technical issues preventing stabilization, then the maintainer MAY > choose to delete an older version even if it is the most recent > stable version for a particular arch. All this does is screw over users. The impact of a forced downgrade is far higher than the impact of leaving things in the tree for as long as is necessary. You are proposing giving maintainers carte blanche to screw over users and encouraging rather than reducing the kind of "us vs them" behaviour that a few package maintainers like to engage in where arch teams are treated as being in the way rather than there to help. --=20 Ciaran McCreesh --Sig_/MEkY=xj8Hp2I0nsfnBil0VM Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkkYfBsACgkQ96zL6DUtXhG40ACeI/ybeN9vqW+NjCwGqF93XNkQ cWQAoKCGBok++PvJS5J1IvSMhg+16eMO =/fzs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/MEkY=xj8Hp2I0nsfnBil0VM--