From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KsbC1-0002nx-RQ for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:43:58 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4D778E0424; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:43:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 277F0E0424 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:43:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dot-pc.idg.com.pl (n6.idg.com.pl [194.69.207.110]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79EC5645AA for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:43:55 +0000 (UTC) From: Dawid =?utf-8?q?W=C4=99gli=C5=84ski?= To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Keyword policy for non standard things Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 12:43:50 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.9 References: <200810220141.34728.cla@gentoo.org> <48FEF85F.9020206@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <48FEF85F.9020206@gentoo.org> Organization: Gentoo Linux Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200810221243.50664.cla@gentoo.org> X-Archives-Salt: 7a28853d-507f-412c-8104-a55cb29da5cc X-Archives-Hash: aecf803bfdd3d33cae10c845ea8c3372 On Wednesday 22 of October 2008 11:54:39 Alistair Bush wrote: > Dawid W=C4=99gli=C5=84ski wrote: > > Hello fellow developers and users. > > > > I'd like to know your opinion of bug #243050 [1] > > > > 01:18:59 cla @| If user bothers to patch his kernel, he can > > bother to add proper package.keyword line, imo. > > ++ > > > 01:21:52 hparker @| Or maybe get the patches added to > > gentoo-sources > > or ++ > > maybe we can get the pm's to implement this as EAPI=3D"999,999,999.99" > I suggest a syntax of "virtual/kernel:::::::user_patched" > As far as i understand what Donnie said yesterday on irc, these patches are= =20 going to be merged in 2.6.28, so problem in this case should be fixed in ne= ar=20 future. But this doesn't resolv global issue that happens for packages=20 requiring users input (such as patching kernel themself). Most devs i was talking with would mark the bug as INVALID until kernel (he= re=20 {gentoo,vamilla}-sources support package in question. > On a more serious note, How can we confirm a package is stable when we > can't confirm the kernel it depends on is? We can't, also security team wouldn't support it: "Adding a new kernel source into the tree is not recommended by the Gentoo= =20 Security Team. Unless it is a kernel source you think could be used by a wi= de=20 number of users, please end your consideration here and simply use an=20 overlay. If you do believe that it is, you must be willing to become the=20 security maintainer." > > I would have no problem with gentoo-sources also including a use flag(s) > ( or not ) and having it add patches to support software we have within > the tree. I have no say in that tho. > > Alistair