From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Km01O-0007Zb-Ho for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 04 Oct 2008 05:49:42 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9B750E0346; Sat, 4 Oct 2008 05:49:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B07FE0346 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2008 05:49:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 332A76535A for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2008 05:49:40 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -3.259 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.259 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=0.340, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3iLjXQnt80+0 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2008 05:49:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27A176534B for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2008 05:49:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Km018-0007lH-I3 for gentoo-dev@gentoo.org; Sat, 04 Oct 2008 05:49:26 +0000 Received: from s010600a0d12f7cee.mj.shawcable.net ([70.64.204.64]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 04 Oct 2008 05:49:26 +0000 Received: from dirtyepic by s010600a0d12f7cee.mj.shawcable.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 04 Oct 2008 05:49:26 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org From: Ryan Hill Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: Testing is not a valid reason to package.mask Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 23:44:10 -0600 Message-ID: <20081003234410.0538e21e@halo.dirtyepic.sk.ca> References: <20081002222435.35768855@epia.jer-c2.orkz.net> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/hz1t_e5hLCfAoRTMadLp+Si"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: s010600a0d12f7cee.mj.shawcable.net X-Newsreader: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.14.3; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Sender: news X-Archives-Salt: e6a9316f-bdf5-422e-b5c9-5beceed6b6fc X-Archives-Hash: 6fa3843683e8bf431229d76c34dd6f68 --Sig_/hz1t_e5hLCfAoRTMadLp+Si Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 22:24:35 +0200 Jeroen Roovers wrote: > Please people, >=20 >=20 > if you want to get something tested, then don't mask it. Um... no? One thing that package.mask has always been used for is temporarily masking a package until it can be tested and then unleashed on the general population. It's not like we're putting masked stuff in the tree with the hope that someone will find it and try it out. You mask a package, ask the user or whoever to test it, and unmask it when it's ready. We don't just throw untested stuff into the tree when we suspect problems with it. ~arch is not a playground. Already one of the major complaints we see against Gentoo time and time again is that it breaks too often and the maintenance burden is too high. Why would we want to exacerbate that? We don't /want/ ~arch systems to get "automatically widely exposed to the stuff we're intending to get tested". That's the whole point of masking it! We want it tested by a few people before we expose it to the unwashed masses. So, no, I'll continue using package.mask for testing just as it always has been. Sorry. --=20 gcc-porting, by design, by neglect treecleaner, for a fact or just for effect wxwidgets @ gentoo EFFD 380E 047A 4B51 D2BD C64F 8AA8 8346 F9A4 0662 --Sig_/hz1t_e5hLCfAoRTMadLp+Si Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkjnA8AACgkQiqiDRvmkBmJlHACgqslKjxdihj2VoHpxioLO4RYe ZE0AoLrYBbXtHr39HU4QzH0Urbgavl3f =A+TT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/hz1t_e5hLCfAoRTMadLp+Si--