* [gentoo-dev] RFC: addition of virtual/fonts package
@ 2008-09-23 3:03 Jeremy Olexa
2008-09-23 3:11 ` Robin H. Johnson
2008-09-23 5:18 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ryan Hill
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From: Jeremy Olexa @ 2008-09-23 3:03 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-dev
I'm thinking that a virtual/fonts package would be a good addition to
the tree. We have hit this issue in Gentoo Prefix where any font package
would satisfy a dependency. I also have an open bug where a package
depends on corefonts but the reporter has stated that another fonts
package will work. Frankly, I would rather *not* depend on the
proprietary M$ fonts, myself. So my proposal would be to make every
fonts package satisfy some virtual and then other packages can depend on
that virtual to satisfy the need for *some* fonts. I just don't have a
game plan for the best way to do it.
Do you people agree that this could be useful?
Does anyone have a suggestion for the best way to get it done?
Thanks for reading!
-Jeremy
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* Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: addition of virtual/fonts package
2008-09-23 3:03 [gentoo-dev] RFC: addition of virtual/fonts package Jeremy Olexa
@ 2008-09-23 3:11 ` Robin H. Johnson
2008-09-23 5:18 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ryan Hill
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From: Robin H. Johnson @ 2008-09-23 3:11 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-dev
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On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 10:03:53PM -0500, Jeremy Olexa wrote:
> I'm thinking that a virtual/fonts package would be a good addition to the
> tree. We have hit this issue in Gentoo Prefix where any font package would
> satisfy a dependency. I also have an open bug where a package depends on
> corefonts but the reporter has stated that another fonts package will work.
> Frankly, I would rather *not* depend on the proprietary M$ fonts, myself.
> So my proposal would be to make every fonts package satisfy some virtual
> and then other packages can depend on that virtual to satisfy the need for
> *some* fonts. I just don't have a game plan for the best way to do it.
Is a single virtual sufficient? Some years ago I pondered having
virtuals for some of the combinations of fonts:
- format: truetype, T1, pcf, bdf
- serif, sans serif
- monospace, variable width
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* [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: addition of virtual/fonts package
2008-09-23 3:03 [gentoo-dev] RFC: addition of virtual/fonts package Jeremy Olexa
2008-09-23 3:11 ` Robin H. Johnson
@ 2008-09-23 5:18 ` Ryan Hill
2008-09-23 12:28 ` Jeremy Olexa
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From: Ryan Hill @ 2008-09-23 5:18 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-dev
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On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 22:03:53 -0500
Jeremy Olexa <darkside@gentoo.org> wrote:
> I'm thinking that a virtual/fonts package would be a good addition to
> the tree. We have hit this issue in Gentoo Prefix where any font
> package would satisfy a dependency. I also have an open bug where a
> package depends on corefonts but the reporter has stated that another
> fonts package will work. Frankly, I would rather *not* depend on the
> proprietary M$ fonts, myself. So my proposal would be to make every
> fonts package satisfy some virtual and then other packages can depend
> on that virtual to satisfy the need for *some* fonts. I just don't
> have a game plan for the best way to do it.
>
> Do you people agree that this could be useful?
> Does anyone have a suggestion for the best way to get it done?
Is it something like currently deps on corefonts but liberation-fonts
works? I think there was a bug open somewhere for that at some point.
I could see a virtual on a some agreed upon choice of core fonts, but
to have every font package in it...
There are also lot of packages that depend on ttf-bitstream-vera that
might work just as easily with dejavu.
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* Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: addition of virtual/fonts package
2008-09-23 5:18 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ryan Hill
@ 2008-09-23 12:28 ` Jeremy Olexa
2008-09-23 17:16 ` Ben de Groot
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From: Jeremy Olexa @ 2008-09-23 12:28 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-dev
Ryan Hill wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 22:03:53 -0500
> Jeremy Olexa <darkside@gentoo.org> wrote:
>
>> I'm thinking that a virtual/fonts package would be a good addition to
>> the tree. We have hit this issue in Gentoo Prefix where any font
>> package would satisfy a dependency. I also have an open bug where a
>> package depends on corefonts but the reporter has stated that another
>> fonts package will work. Frankly, I would rather *not* depend on the
>> proprietary M$ fonts, myself. So my proposal would be to make every
>> fonts package satisfy some virtual and then other packages can depend
>> on that virtual to satisfy the need for *some* fonts. I just don't
>> have a game plan for the best way to do it.
>>
>> Do you people agree that this could be useful?
>> Does anyone have a suggestion for the best way to get it done?
>
> Is it something like currently deps on corefonts but liberation-fonts
> works? I think there was a bug open somewhere for that at some point.
> I could see a virtual on a some agreed upon choice of core fonts, but
> to have every font package in it...
Yes, that is my open bug that I have at the moment. bug #215661. But it
is not the first time I have come across this. Maybe every font package
satisfying a virtual is silly, I don't know. Maybe there are only a
couple of package which can be interchanged, is it known which ones? If
that was the case, then it is trivial to do || ( corefonts
liberation-fonts ) and the case is closed here.
>
> There are also lot of packages that depend on ttf-bitstream-vera that
> might work just as easily with dejavu.
>
I have heard this as well.
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* Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: addition of virtual/fonts package
2008-09-23 12:28 ` Jeremy Olexa
@ 2008-09-23 17:16 ` Ben de Groot
0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Ben de Groot @ 2008-09-23 17:16 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-dev
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Jeremy Olexa wrote:
> Ryan Hill wrote:
>> On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 22:03:53 -0500
>> Jeremy Olexa <darkside@gentoo.org> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm thinking that a virtual/fonts package would be a good addition to
>>> the tree. We have hit this issue in Gentoo Prefix where any font
>>> package would satisfy a dependency. I also have an open bug where a
>>> package depends on corefonts but the reporter has stated that another
>>> fonts package will work. Frankly, I would rather *not* depend on the
>>> proprietary M$ fonts, myself. So my proposal would be to make every
>>> fonts package satisfy some virtual and then other packages can depend
>>> on that virtual to satisfy the need for *some* fonts. I just don't
>>> have a game plan for the best way to do it.
>>>
>>> Do you people agree that this could be useful?
>>> Does anyone have a suggestion for the best way to get it done?
>>
>> Is it something like currently deps on corefonts but liberation-fonts
>> works? I think there was a bug open somewhere for that at some point.
>> I could see a virtual on a some agreed upon choice of core fonts, but
>> to have every font package in it...
>
> Yes, that is my open bug that I have at the moment. bug #215661. But it
> is not the first time I have come across this. Maybe every font package
> satisfying a virtual is silly, I don't know. Maybe there are only a
> couple of package which can be interchanged, is it known which ones? If
> that was the case, then it is trivial to do || ( corefonts
> liberation-fonts ) and the case is closed here.
>
>>
>> There are also lot of packages that depend on ttf-bitstream-vera that
>> might work just as easily with dejavu.
>>
>
> I have heard this as well.
>
>
I think the proposal for a virtual/fonts is very useful. I don't know if
there are any cases where bitmap fonts would be needed instead of
truetype fonts. But if that is the case, we should make separate
virtuals for those.
I think it would be best to add the more common font packages to the
fonts virtual, and not all. I'd propose something along the lines of:
|| ( dejavu liberation-fonts ttf-bitstream-vera corefonts )
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