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From: Ciaran McCreesh <ciaran.mccreesh@googlemail.com>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev]  Re: [RFC] Ability to pass arguments to src_configure/src_compile
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 02:06:45 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080909020645.73288af9@snowmobile> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <pan.2008.09.09.00.58.51@cox.net>

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On Tue, 9 Sep 2008 00:58:52 +0000 (UTC)
Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> wrote:
> Ciaran McCreesh <ciaran.mccreesh@googlemail.com> posted
> 20080909003848.7bb5bbca@snowmobile, excerpted below, on  Tue, 09 Sep
> 2008 00:38:48 +0100:
> > People shouldn't be writing ebuilds to do that at all. They should
> > be using a package manager provided tool that lets them keep track
> > of ebuild-less packages in a way that integrates properly with
> > everything else.
> 
> I did mention package.provided, which is your PM provided tool...

If you consider package.provided to be your package manager provided
tool, you need a much better package manager. Paludis has 'importare'
for tracking (with full uninstall, upgrade, slotting and dependency
handling capabilities) manually built packages. I assume Pkgcore has
something similar.

> As Donnie said in his post made while I was composing mine, it's the 
> "entry level ebuild hack that just gets people in the door and is the 
> reason a lot of people love Gentoo."

Having to write an ebuild just to install something in a package manager
friendly way and be able to uninstall it cleanly later is a defect, not
a feature.

-- 
Ciaran McCreesh

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  reply	other threads:[~2008-09-09  1:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2008-09-07 15:31     ` [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Ability to pass arguments to src_configure/src_compile Vaeth
2008-09-07 15:40       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-09-07 16:46         ` Marcus D. Hanwell
2008-09-07 16:50           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-09-07 17:11             ` Santiago M. Mola
2008-09-08 19:05             ` Luca Barbato
2008-09-08 21:33           ` Donnie Berkholz
2008-09-08 22:13             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-09-08 23:03               ` Donnie Berkholz
2008-09-08 23:31                 ` Alec Warner
2008-09-08 23:20               ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2008-09-08 23:38                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-09-09  0:58                   ` Duncan
2008-09-09  1:06                     ` Ciaran McCreesh [this message]
2008-09-09  2:27                       ` Duncan
2008-09-10  1:05                         ` Steve Long
2008-09-12 17:36             ` [gentoo-dev] " Arun Raghavan
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2008-09-09  7:41                       ` [gentoo-dev] " Vaeth
2008-09-09 12:17                         ` Bernd Steinhauser
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2008-09-08 12:46                   ` [gentoo-dev] " Vaeth
2008-09-08 22:38                     ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2008-09-06 17:36 [gentoo-dev] " Thomas Anderson
2008-09-06 19:00 ` Alec Warner
2008-09-06 20:10   ` Ben de Groot
2008-09-08 21:57     ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long

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