[gentoo-dev] Retirement

[gentoo-dev] Retirement

[Ryan Phillips]

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Howdy All,

I've decided that its time for me to move on from Gentoo.  I have no
ill feelings and still enjoy using the distribution.  With work and
everything else going on in life I don't have much time to devote to
the distribution anymore.  I am sure at some point I'll emerge from
retirement.  Happy Gentooing.

Regards,
Ryan Phillips
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Retirement

[Stuart Herbert]

Hi Ryan,

On 6/8/06, Ryan Phillips <rphillips@gentoo.org> wrote:
> Howdy All,
>
> I've decided that its time for me to move on from Gentoo.  I have no
> ill feelings and still enjoy using the distribution.  With work and
> everything else going on in life I don't have much time to devote to
> the distribution anymore.  I am sure at some point I'll emerge from
> retirement.  Happy Gentooing.
>
> Regards,
> Ryan Phillips

I'm sorry to see you go.  You were a big help to me when I first came
to Gentoo, and one of the reasons I let Seemant and Kurt talk me into
becoming a dev :)

Best of luck with your retirement.

Best regards,
Stu
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[gentoo-dev] Retirement

[Jon Portnoy]

I've been mostly inactive for a good while but hanging on mostly for 
sentimentality's sake, it's past time for that to stop.

I mostly only maintain a small handful of ebuilds, I'm sure they can 
find proper homes quickly. None are maintenance-intensive.

And of course, the only thing anyone is really concerned about; robbat2 
has already laid claim to fortune-mod-gentoo-dev ;)

Later. It's been fun, it's been real, but it hasn't been real fun. :)

I'll be around #gentoo/#-dev.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Retirement

[Wernfried Haas]

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On Fri, Nov 03, 2006 at 02:15:58PM -0500, Jon Portnoy wrote:
> And of course, the only thing anyone is really concerned about; robbat2 
> has already laid claim to fortune-mod-gentoo-dev ;)

Good to hear the really important packages are in good hands. :-)

> Later. It's been fun, it's been real, but it hasn't been real fun. :)

Too bad to see you go, thanks for the stuff you did to^Wfor Gentoo.

cheers,
	Wernfried

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Retirement

[Peter Johanson]

On Fri, Nov 03, 2006 at 02:15:58PM -0500, Jon Portnoy wrote:
> I've been mostly inactive for a good while but hanging on mostly for 
> sentimentality's sake, it's past time for that to stop.
> 
> I mostly only maintain a small handful of ebuilds, I'm sure they can 
> find proper homes quickly. None are maintenance-intensive.
> 
> And of course, the only thing anyone is really concerned about; robbat2 
> has already laid claim to fortune-mod-gentoo-dev ;)
> 
> Later. It's been fun, it's been real, but it hasn't been real fun. :)
> 
> I'll be around #gentoo/#-dev.

Sad to see another of the old faces leave. Best of luck in whatever it
is you choose to spend your time on.

-pete
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Retirement

[Seemant Kulleen]

Wow, this retirement f*cks me up some, I have to say.  I'll give you a
better send off on the planet blogs, because for now I'm still reeling
from the news.

I'll miss you, that's for sure.
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Developer, Gentoo Linux

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Retirement

[Josh Saddler]

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Jon Portnoy wrote:
> I've been mostly inactive for a good while but hanging on mostly for 
> sentimentality's sake, it's past time for that to stop.
> 
> I mostly only maintain a small handful of ebuilds, I'm sure they can 
> find proper homes quickly. None are maintenance-intensive.
> 
> And of course, the only thing anyone is really concerned about; robbat2 
> has already laid claim to fortune-mod-gentoo-dev ;)
> 
> Later. It's been fun, it's been real, but it hasn't been real fun. :)
> 
> I'll be around #gentoo/#-dev.
> 

So long, thanks for all you've done. Thanks too for f-m-g-dev, too. :D.
Good luck!


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Retirement

[Paul de Vrieze]

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On Friday 03 November 2006 20:15, Jon Portnoy wrote:
> I've been mostly inactive for a good while but hanging on mostly for
> sentimentality's sake, it's past time for that to stop.
>
> I mostly only maintain a small handful of ebuilds, I'm sure they can
> find proper homes quickly. None are maintenance-intensive.
>
> And of course, the only thing anyone is really concerned about; robbat2
> has already laid claim to fortune-mod-gentoo-dev ;)
>
> Later. It's been fun, it's been real, but it hasn't been real fun. :)
>
> I'll be around #gentoo/#-dev.

I feel a bid sad to see you go. Even sadder that because of legalities you 
never got to serve on the board of trustees. For the rest, all the best of 
luck and see you around.

Greetings,

Paul

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Gentoo Developer
Mail: pauldv@gentoo.org
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Retirement

[Donnie Berkholz]

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Jon Portnoy wrote:
> I've been mostly inactive for a good while but hanging on mostly for 
> sentimentality's sake, it's past time for that to stop.

Thanks for everything, Jon. You've been a great friend and will continue
to be. That's more meaningful than any of the work we've done.

Donnie


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Retirement

[Alin Nastac]

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Jon Portnoy wrote:
> I've been mostly inactive for a good while but hanging on mostly for 
> sentimentality's sake, it's past time for that to stop.
>
>   
Sad to see another one of us throwing the towel, but I guess this is
just life. People came, people go...
Thanks for all the things you have done, but mostly, thanks for your
kind personality :'(



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Re: [gentoo-dev] Retirement

[Stuart Herbert]

On 11/3/06, Jon Portnoy <avenj@gentoo.org> wrote:
> I've been mostly inactive for a good while but hanging on mostly for
> sentimentality's sake, it's past time for that to stop.

It's a damn shame to see you go.  I guess most of today's devs won't
know or appreciate just how much you've done for Gentoo over the
years.

Best of luck in whatever you're up to next, and if you ever make it
over to this side of the pond, I still owe you a beer.

All the best,
Stu
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Retirement

[Roy Bamford]

On 2006.11.03 19:15, Jon Portnoy wrote:
> I've been mostly inactive for a good while but hanging on mostly for
> sentimentality's sake, it's past time for that to stop.
> 
[snip]
> 
> Later. It's been fun, it's been real, but it hasn't been real fun. :)
> 
> I'll be around #gentoo/#-dev.
> 
> --
> Jon Portnoy
> avenj/irc.freenode.net
> --
> gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
> 

Jon,

Bye for now, thanks for all you have done for Gentoo.
Good luck for the future.

Regards,

Roy Bamford
(NeddySeagoon)

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Retirement

[Joshua Jackson]

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Jon Portnoy wrote:
> I've been mostly inactive for a good while but hanging on mostly for
> sentimentality's sake, it's past time for that to stop.
>
> I mostly only maintain a small handful of ebuilds, I'm sure they can
> find proper homes quickly. None are maintenance-intensive.
>
> And of course, the only thing anyone is really concerned about; robbat2
> has already laid claim to fortune-mod-gentoo-dev ;)
>
> Later. It's been fun, it's been real, but it hasn't been real fun. :)
>
> I'll be around #gentoo/#-dev.
>

As I was gone for a week I didn't see this til this weekend, via
seemant's blog. I was good and didn't reply til today to take that
full week off. I'm sad to see you go  Jon but know that you will
continue to do great things so good luck in whatever you end up
getting involved in
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Retirement

[Jason Huebel]

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On Friday 03 November 2006 1:15 pm, Jon Portnoy wrote:
> I've been mostly inactive for a good while but hanging on mostly for
> sentimentality's sake, it's past time for that to stop.
>
> I mostly only maintain a small handful of ebuilds, I'm sure they can
> find proper homes quickly. None are maintenance-intensive.
>
> And of course, the only thing anyone is really concerned about; robbat2
> has already laid claim to fortune-mod-gentoo-dev ;)
>
> Later. It's been fun, it's been real, but it hasn't been real fun. :)
>
> I'll be around #gentoo/#-dev.
>
> --
> Jon Portnoy
> avenj/irc.freenode.net

Sorry to see you go Jon. I've appreciated your guidance over the years, 
particularly when I took on the daunting task of managing Gentoo/amd64 in 
early 2004. Gentoo feels a little smaller with your departure.

-- 
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Gentoo Developer

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Baruch Spinoza (1632 - 1677)

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[gentoo-dev] Retirement

[Anigel]

Hi,

I (anigel) was thinking about it since a few months, but "real life
requirements" made me really take the decision : I'm retiring from the
Gentoo Project.

For administrative aspects of the procedure : I asked to be removed
from french moderation team yesterday, i was effective a efw minutes
later (thanks mark_alec). Since It seems that keeping access to dgo
requires to pass the docs' quizz, I then prefer just to give up (can't
/ don't-want-to take time to pass the test anyway, for some work I was
already doing without this test, even if it probably wasn't of first
importance). I already backed up the few bytes of my account, so feel
free to remove it. Since I cannot change my e-mail adress on bugzilla,
would it be possible to change it back from anigel@gentoo.org to
lewalton@gmail.com please ? My account on the forum is already
registered back to this account, so no need to change anything there
;-).

I had a lot of fun with Gentoo, and it was a real pleasure to work
with the distro users / devs. Special mention for the forums
moderation team : thank you all guys, your messages really pleased me
: let me say you you are the best forum team actually !

Best regards,

Hubert.
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Retirement

[Petteri Räty]

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Anigel kirjoitti:
> Hi,
> 
> I (anigel) was thinking about it since a few months, but "real life
> requirements" made me really take the decision : I'm retiring from the
> Gentoo Project.
> 
> For administrative aspects of the procedure : I asked to be removed
> from french moderation team yesterday, i was effective a efw minutes
> later (thanks mark_alec). Since It seems that keeping access to dgo
> requires to pass the docs' quizz, I then prefer just to give up (can't
> / don't-want-to take time to pass the test anyway, for some work I was
> already doing without this test, even if it probably wasn't of first
> importance). I already backed up the few bytes of my account, so feel
> free to remove it. Since I cannot change my e-mail adress on bugzilla,
> would it be possible to change it back from anigel@gentoo.org to
> lewalton@gmail.com please ? My account on the forum is already
> registered back to this account, so no need to change anything there
> ;-).
> 

You need to open a new account. See
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/infrastructure/retire-process.xml#doc_chap2
for reasoning.

Regards,
Petteri


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Retirement

[Wernfried Haas]

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Thanks, it's been a pleasure to have you around. Good luck with
everything!

cheers,
	Wernfried

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[gentoo-dev] retirement

[Duncan Coutts]

Hi folks,

I've decided to retire as a Gentoo dev.

I've been a dev for almost exactly 3 years as part of the Haskell team.
I was team leader for a year or so. I managed to recruit kolmodin a
couple years ago and handed team leadership over to him a few months
ago. It's now his turn to recruit some more people to keep the Haskell
team well staffed.

My decision is based on real world time commitments. I'm in the late
stages of writing up my PhD thesis and I've recently started a Haskell
consultancy company <shameless-plug href="www.well-typed.com"/>. I don't
intend to do much less work packaging but I intend to shift my focus
from Gentoo packaging to the central Haskell packaging infrastructure
http://hackage.haskell.org/. All QA improvements there benefit Gentoo.
I'll still have commit access to the haskell overlay and to the hackport
tool for automatically converting packages hackage->portage. I'll still
be in #gentoo-haskell if you want to find me.

I'd like to thank everyone for being welcoming and friendly and
answering my stupid questions. Thanks especially to the arch teams for
all the time they put in for us in testing and stabilising Haskell
packages on such a wide range of platforms. I feel I should also
apologise to jer for constantly breaking ghc on hppa ;-). Thanks also to
jakub for his work filtering and redirecting bugs to us, along with the
occasional helpful insight.

Best of luck everyone.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] retirement

[Mike Auty]

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Hiya Duncs,
	Sorry to hear your time constraints have gotten the better of you
finally.  Best of luck with well-typed, I hope it proves interesting and
that you bring much Haskelly joy to the world...  5;)
	Mike  5:)
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Re: [gentoo-dev] retirement

[Jeroen Roovers]

On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 11:22:14 +0100
Duncan Coutts <dcoutts@gentoo.org> wrote:

> Thanks especially to the arch teams for all the time they put in for
> us in testing and stabilising Haskell packages on such a wide range
> of platforms. I feel I should also apologise to jer for constantly
> breaking ghc on hppa ;-).

That's OK. I like to think we were having fun. :)


Kind regards,
     JeR
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[gentoo-dev] Retirement

[Ingmar Vanhassel]

Hello list,

As usual with this kind of mails, this has been long overdue, but it's
about time that I retire from Gentoo.
For a while Gentoo hasn't been going into a direction I like, and to me
it doesn't look like that's about to change any time soon. Despite attempts
to convince me of the contrary, I'm not sure I see the technical
advancements that I'd like happening, in Gentoo. That aside there're
numerous non-technical problems behind the scenes, that most devs
probably acknowledge by now...
There're other projects in the Free-Software world that I currently
enjoy putting my time into more, I'm sure it's more than obvious to those
of you who know me which...

So long,
Ingmar Vanhassel, ex-Gentoo KDE developer.

[gentoo-dev] Retirement

[Bo Ørsted Andresen]

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My retirement is probably long overdue as I haven't really been active for 
several months. It is now clear to me that Gentoo is not moving in the 
direction I had wished for and the last council election indicates that most 
current Gentoo developers appear to be satisfied with this current direction. 
Therefore farewell. If anybody wants to reach me I can be reached at 
bo.andresen at zlin.dk.

-- 
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Former Gentoo KDE Dev

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Retirement

[Donnie Berkholz]

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On 00:26 Mon 11 Aug     , Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
> My retirement is probably long overdue as I haven't really been active for 
> several months. It is now clear to me that Gentoo is not moving in the 
> direction I had wished for and the last council election indicates that most 
> current Gentoo developers appear to be satisfied with this current direction. 
> Therefore farewell. If anybody wants to reach me I can be reached at 
> bo.andresen at zlin.dk.

Adios guys, and thanks for all the work you've put into Gentoo while you 
were here! Best of luck on your future endeavors.

-- 
Thanks,
Donnie

Donnie Berkholz
Developer, Gentoo Linux
Blog: http://dberkholz.wordpress.com

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[gentoo-dev] Re: Retirement

[Nikos Chantziaras]

Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> On 00:26 Mon 11 Aug     , Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
>> My retirement is probably long overdue as I haven't really been active for 
>> several months. It is now clear to me that Gentoo is not moving in the 
>> direction I had wished for and the last council election indicates that most 
>> current Gentoo developers appear to be satisfied with this current direction. 
>> Therefore farewell. If anybody wants to reach me I can be reached at 
>> bo.andresen at zlin.dk.
> 
> Adios guys, and thanks for all the work you've put into Gentoo while you 
> were here! Best of luck on your future endeavors.

They always say that stuff but never bother explaining what the 
direction they wish for actually is.  As a user I get the impression 
that there's some kind of evil Cabal.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Retirement

[Denis Dupeyron]

On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 1:18 AM, Nikos Chantziaras <realnc@arcor.de> wrote:
> They always say that stuff but never bother explaining what the direction
> they wish for actually is.  As a user I get the impression that there's some
> kind of evil Cabal.

Most of the Gentoo developer population is made of young males with a
natural tendency to overreaction and suboptimal communication skills
(and I'm not implying it's the case of the original poster). So, if I
were you, I wouldn't bother too much to read in between the lines of
these retirement messages.

Denis.

[gentoo-dev] Re: Retirement

[Duncan]

"Denis Dupeyron" <calchan@gentoo.org> posted
7c612fc60808101640l31e7f248ybf9eeba60c5faeeb@mail.gmail.com, excerpted
below, on  Mon, 11 Aug 2008 01:40:58 +0200:

> On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 1:18 AM, Nikos Chantziaras <realnc@arcor.de>
> wrote:
>> They always say that stuff but never bother explaining what the
>> direction they wish for actually is.  As a user I get the impression
>> that there's some kind of evil Cabal.
> 
> Most of the Gentoo developer population is made of young males with a
> natural tendency to overreaction and suboptimal communication skills
> (and I'm not implying it's the case of the original poster). So, if I
> were you, I wouldn't bother too much to read in between the lines of
> these retirement messages.

That, and by the time it comes to retirement, one has generally been thru 
the arguments several times already, the people that need to know why in 
general already do, and there's a feeling it's not worth rehearsing old 
positions and bringing up old arguments the one last time.  The time for 
that has already passed by the time someone's announcing their 
retirement, the decision has been made, it's all water under the bridge 
now (as the saying goes) and it's time to move on, with a clean break, no 
longer blaming anyone or etc as that's what one does /before/ it gets to 
this point.

So, indeed, I'm a KDE user here, and it's time to wish them well...

Thanks guys for all the hard work, the product of which I'm running 
(still KDE 3.5.9, here) as I type this.  Be well, and hope to see you 
around the community!  There's plenty of projects out there that can use 
your help! =8^)

-- 
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"Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
and if you use the program, he is your master."  Richard Stallman

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Retirement

[Alec Warner]

On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 4:18 PM, Nikos Chantziaras <realnc@arcor.de> wrote:
> Donnie Berkholz wrote:
>>
>> On 00:26 Mon 11 Aug     , Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
>>>
>>> My retirement is probably long overdue as I haven't really been active
>>> for several months. It is now clear to me that Gentoo is not moving in the
>>> direction I had wished for and the last council election indicates that most
>>> current Gentoo developers appear to be satisfied with this current
>>> direction. Therefore farewell. If anybody wants to reach me I can be reached
>>> at bo.andresen at zlin.dk.
>>
>> Adios guys, and thanks for all the work you've put into Gentoo while you
>> were here! Best of luck on your future endeavors.
>
> They always say that stuff but never bother explaining what the direction
> they wish for actually is.  As a user I get the impression that there's some
> kind of evil Cabal.

Despite our best efforts Gentoo is not a fun-loving community where
everyone gets along.
If you want to call the fact that the majority of developers want to
go in direction 'X' a cabal; then so be it.

Many folks are happy at the current pace of development.  I imagine
these two folks were frustrated at the lack
of new features in the ebuild spec that were readily available in
kdebuild-1 and decided to move on.  More power to them I say.

-Alec

[gentoo-dev] Re: Retirement

[Nikos Chantziaras]

Alec Warner wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 4:18 PM, Nikos Chantziaras <realnc@arcor.de> wrote:
>> Donnie Berkholz wrote:
>>> On 00:26 Mon 11 Aug     , Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
>>>> My retirement is probably long overdue as I haven't really been active
>>>> for several months. It is now clear to me that Gentoo is not moving in the
>>>> direction I had wished for and the last council election indicates that most
>>>> current Gentoo developers appear to be satisfied with this current
>>>> direction. Therefore farewell. If anybody wants to reach me I can be reached
>>>> at bo.andresen at zlin.dk.
>>> Adios guys, and thanks for all the work you've put into Gentoo while you
>>> were here! Best of luck on your future endeavors.
>> They always say that stuff but never bother explaining what the direction
>> they wish for actually is.  As a user I get the impression that there's some
>> kind of evil Cabal.
> 
> Despite our best efforts Gentoo is not a fun-loving community where
> everyone gets along.
> If you want to call the fact that the majority of developers want to
> go in direction 'X' a cabal; then so be it.
> 
> Many folks are happy at the current pace of development.  I imagine
> these two folks were frustrated at the lack
> of new features in the ebuild spec that were readily available in
> kdebuild-1 and decided to move on.  More power to them I say.

I must apologize for using the word "Cabal".  I don't know the 
developers who resigned at all, nor do I have any clue about the reasons 
they departed.  Leaving with a "Gentoo is not going in the direction I 
want" is equivalent to "Gentoo is going in the wrong direction" and 
makes the resignation sound political.  I don't get why anyone would 
resign because of the ebuild spec, but anyway.  Resignations in general 
don't tend to be too honest.  "I'm bored dudes, farewell" would probably 
be perfectly fine.

[gentoo-dev] Re: Retirement

[Steve Long]

Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:

> My retirement is probably long overdue as I haven't really been active for
> several months. It is now clear to me that Gentoo is not moving in the
> direction I had wished for and the last council election indicates that
> most current Gentoo developers appear to be satisfied with this current
> direction. Therefore farewell. If anybody wants to reach me I can be
> reached at bo.andresen at zlin.dk.
> 
Sorry to see you go. It's a shame if the technical direction is what you
mean, since Gentoo can clearly accomodate different approaches to the same
problem (it is source-based after all.)

One thing: the door isn't nailed shut, even if new ones are opening ;-) Hope
to see you back iow.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Retirement

[Ciaran McCreesh]

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On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 21:51:11 -0700
"Alec Warner" <antarus@gentoo.org> wrote:
> Despite our best efforts Gentoo is not a fun-loving community where
> everyone gets along.

Actually, I'd say that's a fairly accurate description of the problem.
Some people think Gentoo should primarily be a fun-loving community
where everyone gets along, whilst others think Gentoo should primarily
be a first-rate distribution delivering a quality product.

-- 
Ciaran McCreesh

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Retirement

[Santiago M. Mola]

On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 12:26 AM, Bo Ørsted Andresen <zlin@gentoo.org> wrote:
> My retirement is probably long overdue as I haven't really been active for
> several months. It is now clear to me that Gentoo is not moving in the
> direction I had wished for and the last council election indicates that most
> current Gentoo developers appear to be satisfied with this current direction.
> Therefore farewell. If anybody wants to reach me I can be reached at
> bo.andresen at zlin.dk.
>

So long, and see you on the evil side ;-)

-- 
Santiago M. Mola
Jabber ID: cooldwind@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-dev] Retirement

[Santiago M. Mola]

On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 10:56 PM, Ingmar Vanhassel <ingmar@gentoo.org> wrote:
>
> There're other projects in the Free-Software world that I currently
> enjoy putting my time into more, I'm sure it's more than obvious to those
> of you who know me which...
>

Good luck with that project!

-- 
Santiago M. Mola
Jabber ID: cooldwind@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Retirement

[David Leverton]

2008/8/11 Alec Warner <antarus@gentoo.org>:
> Many folks are happy at the current pace of development.  I imagine
> these two folks were frustrated at the lack
> of new features in the ebuild spec that were readily available in
> kdebuild-1 and decided to move on.  More power to them I say.

I'm pretty sure that's the least of their worries.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Retirement

[Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto]

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Hi Ingmar.

Ingmar Vanhassel wrote:
| Hello list,
|
| As usual with this kind of mails, this has been long overdue, but it's
| about time that I retire from Gentoo.

I'm sorry to see you go, but it's not a surprise.
Thanks for all the hard work in Gentoo and in QT/KDE in particular. It
was a pleasure working with you and I've learned much from it.
See you around.

| For a while Gentoo hasn't been going into a direction I like, and to me
| it doesn't look like that's about to change any time soon. Despite
attempts
| to convince me of the contrary, I'm not sure I see the technical
| advancements that I'd like happening, in Gentoo. That aside there're
| numerous non-technical problems behind the scenes, that most devs
| probably acknowledge by now...
| There're other projects in the Free-Software world that I currently
| enjoy putting my time into more, I'm sure it's more than obvious to those
| of you who know me which...
|
| So long,
| Ingmar Vanhassel, ex-Gentoo KDE developer.
|
|

- --
Regards,

Jorge Vicetto (jmbsvicetto) - jmbsvicetto at gentoo dot org
Gentoo- forums / Userrel / SPARC / KDE
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Retirement

[Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto]

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Hi Bo.

Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
| My retirement is probably long overdue as I haven't really been active
for
| several months.

I'm sorry to see you go, but it isn't a surprise.
Thanks for all the hard work in Gentoo and in QT/KDE in particular. Also
~ thanks for the improvements to the svn eclass. It was good working with
you and I've learned much from it.
See you around.

| It is now clear to me that Gentoo is not moving in the
| direction I had wished for and the last council election indicates
that most
| current Gentoo developers appear to be satisfied with this current
direction.
| Therefore farewell. If anybody wants to reach me I can be reached at
| bo.andresen at zlin.dk.
|

- --
Regards,

Jorge Vicetto (jmbsvicetto) - jmbsvicetto at gentoo dot org
Gentoo- forums / Userrel / SPARC / KDE
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Retirement

[Patrick Lauer]

Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 21:51:11 -0700
> "Alec Warner" <antarus@gentoo.org> wrote:
>   
>> Despite our best efforts Gentoo is not a fun-loving community where
>> everyone gets along.
>>     
>
> Actually, I'd say that's a fairly accurate description of the problem.
> Some people think Gentoo should primarily be a fun-loving community
> where everyone gets along, whilst others think Gentoo should primarily
> be a first-rate distribution delivering a quality product.
>   
You say that as if it is mutually exclusive. I claim that having fun 
leads to quality products because of motivation and the feedback between 
people where one challenges the other to do better - I've seen quite a 
few examples of such interactions in the past, but thanks to depressing 
monologues by people with too much ego that is becoming more and more rare.

Gentoo is supposed to be fun.

If it stops being fun only grumpy old men will do the bare minimum to 
keep things from breaking too badly instead of improving things. Meh. I 
demand mandatory fun hours twice a week! And a coffee machine. And a 
pony. Yes! A pony!

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Retirement

[Anthony Metcalf]

Patrick Lauer wrote:
>
> If it stops being fun only grumpy old men will do the bare minimum to 
> keep things from breaking too badly instead of improving things. Meh. 
> I demand mandatory fun hours twice a week! And a coffee machine. And a 
> pony. Yes! A pony!
>
>
Being bitten by the Pony is not fun. Please keep your ponies away from 
my tools.

Thanks

A User.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Retirement

[George Prowse]

On 11 Aug 2008, at 14:19, Patrick Lauer wrote:

> Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
>> On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 21:51:11 -0700
>> "Alec Warner" <antarus@gentoo.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Despite our best efforts Gentoo is not a fun-loving community where
>>> everyone gets along.
>>>
>>
>> Actually, I'd say that's a fairly accurate description of the  
>> problem.
>> Some people think Gentoo should primarily be a fun-loving community
>> where everyone gets along, whilst others think Gentoo should  
>> primarily
>> be a first-rate distribution delivering a quality product.
>>
> You say that as if it is mutually exclusive. I claim that having fun  
> leads to quality products because of motivation and the feedback  
> between people where one challenges the other to do better - I've  
> seen quite a few examples of such interactions in the past, but  
> thanks to depressing monologues by people with too much ego that is  
> becoming more and more rare.
>
> Gentoo is supposed to be fun.
>
> If it stops being fun only grumpy old men will do the bare minimum  
> to keep things from breaking too badly instead of improving things.  
> Meh. I demand mandatory fun hours twice a week! And a coffee  
> machine. And a pony. Yes! A pony!

GLEP 57. Coffee machine and Pony Needed.

When in need of help, Gentoo needs a knight in shining armour, that  
usually comes as coffee so to facilitate that we need a coffee machine  
and a pony. I have just been informed by amne that the pony needs to  
be pink.

[gentoo-dev] Re: Retirement

[Duncan]

Anthony Metcalf <anthony.metcalf@anferny.me.uk> posted
48A03F17.3000707@anferny.me.uk, excerpted below, on  Mon, 11 Aug 2008
14:31:03 +0100:

> Patrick Lauer wrote:
>>
>> If it stops being fun only grumpy old men will do the bare minimum to
>> keep things from breaking too badly instead of improving things. Meh. I
>> demand mandatory fun hours twice a week! And a coffee machine. And a
>> pony. Yes! A pony!
>>
>>
> Being bitten by the Pony is not fun. Please keep your ponies away from
> my tools.

Ooo, and being bit by the pony (or for that matter, anything) in the 
tools is REALLY not fun!! =8^S

-- 
Duncan - List replies preferred.   No HTML msgs.
"Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
and if you use the program, he is your master."  Richard Stallman

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Retirement

[Jeroen Roovers]

On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 00:26:18 +0000 (UTC)
Xxxxxx <xxxxx.xxxxxx@xxx.xxx> wrote:

I picked this message as the current last in thread to reply to. Please
allow me to express my sincere distaste at the hijacking of this
retirement announcement thread for (political) profit and/or fun.

To the retirees: best of luck and happiness in your future (current!)
endeavours and pity we didn't get along.


Kind regards,
     JeR

[gentoo-dev] retirement

[Christopher Brannon]

Hello all,
My life has changed quickly over the last several months, especially
with marriage and the like.  My motivation for working on Gentoo is
almost nil at this point, and I don't see it picking back up any time
soon.  It's best if I retire.

This is a great distro and a great community.  I'll try to help where I
can, but as a user, not a developer.

Thanks,
-- Chris

[gentoo-dev] Retirement

[Marek Szuba]

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Dear everyone,

I hesitated for quite a while before making this decision, mostly due to 
"if not me, who else?" considerations - but in the end, I feel the time 
has come for me to hand in my OpenPGP keys and retire from Gentoo 
development at the end of June.

These ~8 years have been a very interesting time for me, not in the 
least thanks to my involvement in getting Gentoo Linux ready for 64-bit 
RISC-V and my term on the Council. That said, when Roy mentioned in 
response to one of the other recent retirements that this is supposed to 
be fun, I realised that - with all the obscure test failures I was never 
able to reproduce, the perennial battles for compatibility with 
alternative toolchains and MUSL, the loss of co-maintainers of several 
packages, the growing number of bugs specific to arches I haven't got 
much interest in as far as Gentoo is concerned, and the changes to my 
personal circumstances which began about 2 years ago and have yet to 
conclude - that this has been anything *but* fun for me lately.

I am planning to spend the next 2.5 weeks tackling at least part of my 
current bug backlog. Will see how far ahead I can get with this.

Thank you for your work, ladies and gentlemen of Gentoo. And good luck.

-- 
Marecki

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