From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1K9I2v-0002AM-RA for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 11:11:18 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 54C2FE03F2; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 11:11:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.marples.name (rsm.demon.co.uk [80.177.111.50]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DD19E03F2 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 11:11:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from foo080bar.development.ltl (host81-149-27-23.in-addr.btopenworld.com [81.149.27.23]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.marples.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A7E819006C for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 12:11:15 +0100 (BST) From: Roy Marples To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Agenda [WAS: One-Day Gentoo Council Reminder for June] Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 12:11:11 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.9 References: <20080611070618.54E4066E24@smtp.gentoo.org> <20080615155052.3376fd83@googlemail.com> <1213839792.4449.7.camel@inertia.twi-31o2.org> In-Reply-To: <1213839792.4449.7.camel@inertia.twi-31o2.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200806191211.12363.roy@marples.name> X-Archives-Salt: fd0096ed-618d-4af6-98ca-7736df2fd6d7 X-Archives-Hash: ebf8ed9028ca8d91cb074ab76ed207f0 On Thursday 19 June 2008 02:43:12 Chris Gianelloni wrote: > Nope. What I see as a problem is that the primary author and current > de facto maintainer is so much of an asshole that he was forcibly > removed from the Gentoo project, which PMS is supposed to be written > for, and has ostracized (at least) one of the package manager's > development team with his constant not-so-subtle attacks. Quite > frankly, I'd prefer see Gentoo take control over the specification that > defines the most important single feature of Gentoo and remove the > non-Gentoo developers from its development. No offense, but you're not > a Gentoo developer any longer and you shouldn't have a say in how *we* > manage ourselves. You're more than welcome to contribute code, fork, or > whatever the hell you want. This is open source, after all, but that > doesn't mean you should be allowed to hold the position of power over > Gentoo that you've been granted. I would like to see Gentoo grow some balls and start banning people from -dev and other media used. I don't mean temporary bans, I mean for life. Yes, it's not nice. Yes, Gentoo should be open for all and encourage participation from all. However, some people have demonstrated time and time again over quite a number of years that they wont change no matter what. These people are posionous [1]. Whilst growing this set of balls, consider scrapping PMS I've yet to see any tangiable gain (from a user perspective) but plently of loss (developers, hair, temper). I'm leaving this list as I want no part in this any longer, so I won't read any replies. Thanks Roy [1] http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4216011961522818645 -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list