From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1K6Kf1-0002gI-Dz for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 07:22:23 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A5A9DE0431; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 07:22:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.169]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61234E0431 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 07:22:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id z27so32331ugc.49 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:22:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type; bh=RNcWXwZ/ERCGoet92bjT5MKYG58McEXF0+XlDyrr0+s=; b=Y6IDFmCBsiMcBFB+gqahEn3RKWLSTEuTtENFciSo+vimRl0rWlRrJ2l3e7AMudlml5 A8Inm4CLUT6x265/7RcqXbD0nRhxthAF4rzfhLPSYAQfNhqpcsq6/BeHJ5aHJCNKzETW RmjHOFvmmQYeaD3OpHCitqlyYzGEeySJTo+4E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type; b=RkdcLNILXR6qv7uU5kCJuGlFAnlybBtHweq85G/Nc/y6MhDLvmKdrqVJr47ZNo6qno AJv2Y5HGq/Lg9o9xJP0sGTd4f5tTl+z5U2pwZAY2UqhEPWnjh0bRY0j/r1OPXgK2zLRg nvrKqLY2vAyo8fzjHw2q1Eo/kBytba/YbsUXM= Received: by 10.67.26.7 with SMTP id d7mr968820ugj.12.1213168940600; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:22:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ( [213.121.151.206]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z40sm827034ugc.79.2008.06.11.00.22.20 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:22:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 08:22:14 +0100 From: Ciaran McCreesh To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI-2 - Let's get it started Message-ID: <20080611082214.7aaa90b5@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <484F7C2F.8050807@gentoo.org> References: <484EAB4F.6070608@gentoo.org> <200806110011.41718.zlin@gentoo.org> <20080611010347.6ced7db2@sheridan.genone.homeip.net> <200806110142.38384.zlin@gentoo.org> <20080611074944.00965ad2@toz.strangled.net> <20080611065442.38e67d90@googlemail.com> <484F6A3A.9000500@gentoo.org> <20080611070540.0fc417c3@googlemail.com> <484F76D4.7080703@gentoo.org> <20080611075952.2d9bf494@googlemail.com> <484F7C2F.8050807@gentoo.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/rTXrJJIPTE9mO9CKMeltsb+"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 X-Archives-Salt: 67f6b3d4-038d-407f-9255-18ebf803cc92 X-Archives-Hash: 263c36302349b4a1f6f1af7ec04fd532 --Sig_/rTXrJJIPTE9mO9CKMeltsb+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:18:07 +0200 Luca Barbato wrote: > Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > Ok, if EAPI 2 turns on src_test except where explicitly overridden > > by the ebuild, explain how EAPI 2 src_test failures are meaningless > > in the same way that EAPI 0/1 src_test failures are. >=20 > Test failures aren't meaningless right now. Applications with good > test suites got them used by the people that cares already. The point you've been missing this whole time: If, as a user or an arch person, I get a src_test failure right now, I don't know whether this means "eek! Something's gone wrong, and I really need to fix this" or "oh, whoever maintains this package doesn't care". But with EAPI 2, I'll be able to know that a src_test failure really does mean "something's wrong". --=20 Ciaran McCreesh --Sig_/rTXrJJIPTE9mO9CKMeltsb+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkhPfSkACgkQ96zL6DUtXhG9LwCdFQcem7Pp9iaH3PHVFSpg9u/A vVkAn0308OA/ad4udwVHasGNsWNPbvqr =1I// -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/rTXrJJIPTE9mO9CKMeltsb+-- -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list