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From: Ferris McCormick <fmccor@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2008/2009
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 16:13:15 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080607161315.482b5dcf@anaconda.krait.us> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <g2debi$kg5$1@ger.gmane.org>

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On Sat, 07 Jun 2008 09:45:53 +0200
Tiziano Müller <dev-zero@gentoo.org> wrote:

> Roy Bamford wrote:
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> > On 2008.06.05 01:00, ?ukasz Damentko wrote:
> >> Hi guys,
> >> 
> >> Nominations for the Gentoo Council 2008/2009 are open now and will be
> >> open for the next two weeks (until 23:59 UTC, 18/06/2008).
> > 
> > Team,
> > 
> > I don't want to nominate anyone who hasn't been nominated already.
> > I would like to address all the candidates who have or will accept
> > council nominations.
> > 
> > 1. Please tell us how/if you plan to fix GLEP 39. (You may not consider
> > it broken)
> 
> a) A GLEP 39 is a "proposal" to do/implement something and should not be
> used as a way to finally document something. So, if we want to fix it, we
> should write down a new GLEP replacing GLEP 39 and then write that
> information down where it belongs to: in proj/en/council (and/or the
> developer handbook)
> 
> b) Reading GLEP 1 you'll see that there are only two types of
> GLEPs: "Standards Track" and "Informational". One is for technical stuff
> and the other for organizational, but: "Informational GLEPs do not
> necessarily represent a Gentoo Linux community
> consensus or recommendation, so users and implementors are free to ignore
> Informational GLEPs or follow their advice."
> 
> So we either have to stop using GLEPs for such kind of "rules/definitions"
> OR redefine how GLEPs should be used properly for changing organizational
> processes.
> 
> We should finally stop doing cosmetic changes or we will forever struggle
> with outside people who know our rules better than we and as a result waste
> our time and energy and block our processes.
> 
> Cheers,
> Tiziano
> 

GLEP 39 is informational in that it describes council+policy.  The
actual policy was established in 2005 in a vote by the developer
community.  Thus, changes to the GLEP should be only to clarify actual
policy (and I don't know where it is written down.  I remember the
vote, but don't know who controls the actual policy document).  I
believe that policy changes would require another vote;  GLEP 39
changes should not change policy.  At least, that is my recollection and
understanding.
> 
> -- 
> gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
> 

Regards,
Ferris
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Ferris McCormick (P44646, MI) <fmccor@gentoo.org>
Developer, Gentoo Linux (Sparc, Devrel, Userrel, Trustees)
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  reply	other threads:[~2008-06-07 16:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-05  0:00 [gentoo-dev] Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2008/2009 Łukasz Damentko
2008-06-05  9:35 ` Josh Saddler
2008-06-05  9:55   ` [gentoo-dev] " Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2008-06-05 10:44   ` [gentoo-dev] " Fabian Groffen
2008-06-05 15:54     ` Tobias Scherbaum
2008-06-05 17:35     ` Ferris McCormick
2008-06-05 15:27   ` [gentoo-dev] " Markus Ullmann
2008-06-05 19:19   ` [gentoo-dev] " Luca Barbato
2008-06-05 20:04   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-06-05 20:27     ` Doug Goldstein
2008-06-06  9:13     ` [gentoo-dev] " Tiziano Müller
2008-06-05 20:40   ` [gentoo-dev] " Petteri Räty
2008-06-06  0:48   ` Richard Brown
2008-06-06 11:20     ` Samuli Suominen
2008-06-07  9:40       ` Richard Brown
2008-06-06  7:17   ` Donnie Berkholz
2008-06-09  6:15   ` Wernfried Haas
2008-06-05 15:34 ` [gentoo-dev] " Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2008-06-12 15:51   ` Doug Goldstein
2008-06-17  0:44   ` Mart Raudsepp
2008-06-05 16:09 ` Ali Polatel
2008-06-05 18:26   ` Alex Howells
2008-06-05 18:50     ` Peter Weller
2008-06-05 19:42       ` Alex Howells
2008-06-05 20:13         ` Richard Brown
2008-06-06 10:50         ` George Prowse
2008-06-05 19:53     ` [gentoo-dev] " Ali Polatel
2008-06-05 21:26     ` [gentoo-dev] " Bo Ørsted Andresen
2008-06-06  8:36     ` Alec Warner
2008-06-07 22:37   ` Fernando J. Pereda
2008-06-05 18:33 ` [gentoo-dev] " Roy Bamford
2008-06-05 18:54   ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2008-06-05 19:01     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-06-05 19:35       ` Doug Goldstein
2008-06-05 21:10   ` Luca Barbato
2008-06-06  1:37   ` Ferris McCormick
2008-06-06  9:28     ` Duncan
2008-06-06 14:21       ` Ferris McCormick
2008-06-07  3:09         ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2008-06-06 13:32     ` [gentoo-dev] " Ferris McCormick
2008-06-06 19:12       ` [gentoo-project] " Donnie Berkholz
2008-06-07  7:45   ` Tiziano Müller
2008-06-07 16:13     ` Ferris McCormick [this message]
2008-06-09 18:18   ` Tiziano Müller
2008-07-01  7:28   ` Donnie Berkholz
2008-06-07  9:33 ` Vlastimil Babka
2008-06-07  9:46   ` Raúl Porcel
2008-06-07 19:21   ` Joe Peterson
2008-06-09  9:08   ` [gentoo-dev] " Christian Faulhammer
2008-06-15 19:34   ` Christian Faulhammer
2008-06-07 19:46 ` [gentoo-dev] " Mark Loeser
2008-06-07 20:46   ` [gentoo-dev] " Ryan Hill
2008-06-07 21:00     ` Alex Howells
2008-06-08  3:09       ` Ryan Hill
2008-06-08  1:08   ` Tiziano Müller
2008-06-08 16:10 ` [gentoo-dev] " Bo Ørsted Andresen
2008-06-08 21:10   ` Piotr Jaroszyński
2008-06-18 12:17 ` Panagiotis Christopoulos
2008-06-18 12:31   ` Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
2008-06-18 12:56   ` Ulrich Mueller
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-06-05 17:32 Ferris McCormick
2008-06-05 18:24 ` Alex Howells
2008-06-05 18:24   ` Alex Howells
2008-06-05 20:56 ` Peter Weller
2008-06-06 17:44   ` Alex Howells
2008-06-07 16:10     ` Mark Loeser
2008-06-06 18:27 Ferris McCormick
2008-06-07  1:32 ` George Prowse
2008-06-07 13:46   ` Alex Howells
2008-06-18 15:30     ` Chris Gianelloni
2008-06-15 12:14 ` Roy Bamford

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