From: Ferris McCormick <fmccor@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2008/2009
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 16:13:15 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080607161315.482b5dcf@anaconda.krait.us> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <g2debi$kg5$1@ger.gmane.org>
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Tiziano Müller <dev-zero@gentoo.org> wrote:
> Roy Bamford wrote:
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> > On 2008.06.05 01:00, ?ukasz Damentko wrote:
> >> Hi guys,
> >>
> >> Nominations for the Gentoo Council 2008/2009 are open now and will be
> >> open for the next two weeks (until 23:59 UTC, 18/06/2008).
> >
> > Team,
> >
> > I don't want to nominate anyone who hasn't been nominated already.
> > I would like to address all the candidates who have or will accept
> > council nominations.
> >
> > 1. Please tell us how/if you plan to fix GLEP 39. (You may not consider
> > it broken)
>
> a) A GLEP 39 is a "proposal" to do/implement something and should not be
> used as a way to finally document something. So, if we want to fix it, we
> should write down a new GLEP replacing GLEP 39 and then write that
> information down where it belongs to: in proj/en/council (and/or the
> developer handbook)
>
> b) Reading GLEP 1 you'll see that there are only two types of
> GLEPs: "Standards Track" and "Informational". One is for technical stuff
> and the other for organizational, but: "Informational GLEPs do not
> necessarily represent a Gentoo Linux community
> consensus or recommendation, so users and implementors are free to ignore
> Informational GLEPs or follow their advice."
>
> So we either have to stop using GLEPs for such kind of "rules/definitions"
> OR redefine how GLEPs should be used properly for changing organizational
> processes.
>
> We should finally stop doing cosmetic changes or we will forever struggle
> with outside people who know our rules better than we and as a result waste
> our time and energy and block our processes.
>
> Cheers,
> Tiziano
>
GLEP 39 is informational in that it describes council+policy. The
actual policy was established in 2005 in a vote by the developer
community. Thus, changes to the GLEP should be only to clarify actual
policy (and I don't know where it is written down. I remember the
vote, but don't know who controls the actual policy document). I
believe that policy changes would require another vote; GLEP 39
changes should not change policy. At least, that is my recollection and
understanding.
>
> --
> gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
>
Regards,
Ferris
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Ferris McCormick (P44646, MI) <fmccor@gentoo.org>
Developer, Gentoo Linux (Sparc, Devrel, Userrel, Trustees)
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Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-06-05 0:00 [gentoo-dev] Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2008/2009 Łukasz Damentko
2008-06-05 9:35 ` Josh Saddler
2008-06-05 9:55 ` [gentoo-dev] " Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2008-06-05 10:44 ` [gentoo-dev] " Fabian Groffen
2008-06-05 15:54 ` Tobias Scherbaum
2008-06-05 17:35 ` Ferris McCormick
2008-06-05 15:27 ` [gentoo-dev] " Markus Ullmann
2008-06-05 19:19 ` [gentoo-dev] " Luca Barbato
2008-06-05 20:04 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-06-05 20:27 ` Doug Goldstein
2008-06-06 9:13 ` [gentoo-dev] " Tiziano Müller
2008-06-05 20:40 ` [gentoo-dev] " Petteri Räty
2008-06-06 0:48 ` Richard Brown
2008-06-06 11:20 ` Samuli Suominen
2008-06-07 9:40 ` Richard Brown
2008-06-06 7:17 ` Donnie Berkholz
2008-06-09 6:15 ` Wernfried Haas
2008-06-05 15:34 ` [gentoo-dev] " Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2008-06-12 15:51 ` Doug Goldstein
2008-06-17 0:44 ` Mart Raudsepp
2008-06-05 16:09 ` Ali Polatel
2008-06-05 18:26 ` Alex Howells
2008-06-05 18:50 ` Peter Weller
2008-06-05 19:42 ` Alex Howells
2008-06-05 20:13 ` Richard Brown
2008-06-06 10:50 ` George Prowse
2008-06-05 19:53 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ali Polatel
2008-06-05 21:26 ` [gentoo-dev] " Bo Ørsted Andresen
2008-06-06 8:36 ` Alec Warner
2008-06-07 22:37 ` Fernando J. Pereda
2008-06-05 18:33 ` [gentoo-dev] " Roy Bamford
2008-06-05 18:54 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2008-06-05 19:01 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-06-05 19:35 ` Doug Goldstein
2008-06-05 21:10 ` Luca Barbato
2008-06-06 1:37 ` Ferris McCormick
2008-06-06 9:28 ` Duncan
2008-06-06 14:21 ` Ferris McCormick
2008-06-07 3:09 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2008-06-06 13:32 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ferris McCormick
2008-06-06 19:12 ` [gentoo-project] " Donnie Berkholz
2008-06-07 7:45 ` Tiziano Müller
2008-06-07 16:13 ` Ferris McCormick [this message]
2008-06-09 18:18 ` Tiziano Müller
2008-07-01 7:28 ` Donnie Berkholz
2008-06-07 9:33 ` Vlastimil Babka
2008-06-07 9:46 ` Raúl Porcel
2008-06-07 19:21 ` Joe Peterson
2008-06-09 9:08 ` [gentoo-dev] " Christian Faulhammer
2008-06-15 19:34 ` Christian Faulhammer
2008-06-07 19:46 ` [gentoo-dev] " Mark Loeser
2008-06-07 20:46 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ryan Hill
2008-06-07 21:00 ` Alex Howells
2008-06-08 3:09 ` Ryan Hill
2008-06-08 1:08 ` Tiziano Müller
2008-06-08 16:10 ` [gentoo-dev] " Bo Ørsted Andresen
2008-06-08 21:10 ` Piotr Jaroszyński
2008-06-18 12:17 ` Panagiotis Christopoulos
2008-06-18 12:31 ` Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
2008-06-18 12:56 ` Ulrich Mueller
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-06-05 17:32 Ferris McCormick
2008-06-05 18:24 ` Alex Howells
2008-06-05 18:24 ` Alex Howells
2008-06-05 20:56 ` Peter Weller
2008-06-06 17:44 ` Alex Howells
2008-06-07 16:10 ` Mark Loeser
2008-06-06 18:27 Ferris McCormick
2008-06-07 1:32 ` George Prowse
2008-06-07 13:46 ` Alex Howells
2008-06-18 15:30 ` Chris Gianelloni
2008-06-15 12:14 ` Roy Bamford
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