From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-dev+bounces-30361-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>) id 1JmaKN-0006bU-8S for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 17 Apr 2008 20:03:27 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 505FFE05AF; Thu, 17 Apr 2008 20:03:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from s15216962.onlinehome-server.info (s15216962.onlinehome-server.info [217.160.22.205]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10395E056C for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Thu, 17 Apr 2008 20:03:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by s15216962.onlinehome-server.info (8.13.3/8.13.3) with UUCP id m3HK3Ap4015420 for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Thu, 17 Apr 2008 22:03:10 +0200 Received: (from weigelt@localhost) by nibiru.metux.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) id m3HK2aRv015081 for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Thu, 17 Apr 2008 22:02:36 +0200 Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 22:02:36 +0200 From: Enrico Weigelt <weigelt@metux.de> To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] What are blocks used for? Message-ID: <20080417200235.GK31409@nibiru.local> References: <20080416062452.45f3831d@snowcone> <20080416072413.GA23808@comet> <4805B114.6000308@o2.pl> <20080416090408.5ada387b@snowcone> <18437.48017.68913.723605@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-dev+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-dev.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <18437.48017.68913.723605@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Terror: bin laden, kill bush, Briefbombe, Massenvernichtung, KZ, X-Nazi: Weisse Rasse, Hitlers Wiederauferstehung, 42, X-Antichrist: weg mit schaeuble, ausrotten, heiliger krieg, al quaida, X-Killer: 23, endloesung, Weltuntergang, X-Doof: wer das liest ist doof X-Archives-Salt: 8e502f71-04b4-4e43-83f4-417e2ef6a848 X-Archives-Hash: 006e2090e4ddd48b926d72b44e40e522 * Ulrich Mueller <ulm@gentoo.org> schrieb: > I don't know if it would be feasible from a package manager point of > view, but couldn't some (most?) blockers be avoided if there was some > means to transfer ownership of installed files from one package to > another? This is problematic, since the system must be in an consistent state after the update, or really bad things can happen. And it still doesn't solve dependencies correctly, imagine: foo1: depends on bar1 foo2: depends on bar2 bar1 and bar2 are in conflict. For the special case of one package replacing another one *completely* (eg. the mktemp case), the process could be automated by giving portage enough information and having appropriate logic in portage). But is it really worth all that ? In the mktemp case, IMHO, coreutils is the source of evil: it simply assimilated another package ! We shouldn't let it pass. cu -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Enrico Weigelt == metux IT service - http://www.metux.de/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- Please visit the OpenSource QM Taskforce: http://wiki.metux.de/public/OpenSource_QM_Taskforce Patches / Fixes for a lot dozens of packages in dozens of versions: http://patches.metux.de/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list