From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Jg4vW-0005kt-IX for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:18:54 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7BE00E0424; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:18:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from aerie.halcy0n.com (aerie.halcy0n.com [65.98.89.194]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A883E0424 for ; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:18:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aerie.halcy0n.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 377C87DD0C for ; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 17:18:53 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at halcy0n.com Received: from aerie.halcy0n.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (halcy0n.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 8tF1Vqjf5DTP for ; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 17:18:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by aerie.halcy0n.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0AE297DD0B; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 17:18:44 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 17:18:44 -0400 From: Mark Loeser To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in sys-apps/iproute2: ChangeLog iproute2-2.6.24.20080108.ebuild Message-ID: <20080330211844.GB32327@aerie.halcy0n.com> References: <20080330054051.GE24954@comet.had1.or.comcast.net> <20080330191922.GA32327@aerie.halcy0n.com> <200803301544.55878.vapier@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="R3G7APHDIzY6R/pk" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200803301544.55878.vapier@gentoo.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) X-Archives-Salt: 87992028-da05-459a-83ce-f9f85f13d23a X-Archives-Hash: 65fe1ba75b69b18cd9472b54da06a040 --R3G7APHDIzY6R/pk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mike Frysinger said: > On Sunday 30 March 2008, Mark Loeser wrote: > > Actually, I'd say this should just be removed. If a user wants to apply > > a patch, they can put their own ebuild into an overlay and do it > > themselves (presumably if they want to patch something, they'll know how > > to make the simple modifications to an ebuild). By allowing the user to > > arbitrarily patch something means we have no idea what the user has > > built and is filing a bug about. If they installed an ebuild from an > > overlay it is a lot easier to identify what they built. Sure, they > > could patch the ebuild in their tree, but by supporting user supplied > > patches easily in this way, we are encouraging them to patch things > > without our knowledge. If we start supporting this across the board, I > > can see bugs being filed when their patches break and they don't > > understand what is happening. >=20 > that's actually exactly what i'm encouraging. i'm not worried about such= =20 > issues as they're easily resolved by people posting the full build log. Which is great, but I think this is something we should discuss and figure out if this is something we want to introduce into the tree (too late now, but better late than never). If it is something we want to move forward with, it should be introduced at the package manager level instead of being an in-tree package manager specific feature. I'm coming at this from a QA perspective and if we want to do it for one package, it should be introduced for all. We should document it and know how to support it as well. Thanks, --=20 Mark Loeser email - halcy0n AT gentoo DOT org email - mark AT halcy0n DOT com web - http://www.halcy0n.com --R3G7APHDIzY6R/pk Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFH8AO0CRZPokWLroQRAjtoAKDhSP4wTeaU8boQz+GTLw9mLwwKoACgxDqF y+kSWFXPY561KXc+nwyaMsg= =RVIz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --R3G7APHDIzY6R/pk-- -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list