From: Christian Faulhammer <opfer@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: Help offered - Portage tree
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 17:30:24 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080314173024.5be98188@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1205445795.30618.1242298155@webmail.messagingengine.com>
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Hi,
davecode@nospammail.net:
> I've read Gentoo's new dev announcements about monkeys and paper
> weights. People with a couple of small open-source projects. The
> monkeys and paper weights get CVS rights. Then the chief architect of
> Sabayon is scotched over bugzilla output? Please. That smells like
> bad fish.
Sorry, but look up humour in a dictionary of your choice. The guy
with the paperweight has been a valuable contributor to the Alpha port
including preparing the releases for that architecture. If you had read
his announcement completely you would have seen what kind of service he
provided for the project...for years!
> When someone as expert as this offers help, take it and make him a
> fast lane. He is worth ten bugzillas. Like a scientist once told me
> - it would be inefficient for him to clean his office, they have
> janitors for that.
No, same rights for everybody. Even Daniel Robbins (founder of
Gentoo) took the quizees the normal way. when he returned.
> Bugzillas are mostly good for non-devs to report bugs. I know zero
> developers who first think to themselves, "ok, I need a project
> bugzilla...then I can begin writing code." That isn't how development
> works.
As long as somebody cares about the bugs, it works quite well...if
nobody responds to them, any system is useless.
> "So you don't have time to file bugs but you would have time to fix
> them" is rhetoric. The issue is ROI. Why file bugzillas that some
> "dev" authority figure may or may not fix in two years, when you can
> fix the code yourself?
Sometimes I do commits in other project's garden...because I need a
bug closed. I warn them one week at least before doing the actual
change so somebody can stop me.
> If you dislike his CVS mods you can always revert, take votes, etc.
> But I say +1 let him have at it.
Fine, you can help him take the quiz.
V-L
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Christian Faulhammer, Gentoo Lisp project
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Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-03-13 22:03 [gentoo-dev] Re: Help offered - Portage tree davecode
2008-03-13 22:10 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2008-03-13 22:33 ` Anant Narayanan
2008-03-13 23:10 ` Petteri Räty
2008-03-13 23:29 ` Pierre-Yves Rofes
2008-03-13 22:43 ` Fabio Erculiani
2008-03-20 4:06 ` davecode
2008-03-14 16:30 ` Christian Faulhammer [this message]
2008-03-14 17:16 ` Fabio Erculiani
2008-03-14 18:08 ` Bo Ørsted Andresen
2008-03-15 9:37 ` Jakub Moc
2008-03-16 7:41 ` Luca Barbato
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-03-12 23:35 [gentoo-dev] " Fabio Erculiani
2008-03-12 23:46 ` Jan Kundrát
2008-03-12 23:57 ` Fabio Erculiani
2008-03-13 7:33 ` Thilo Bangert
2008-03-13 9:24 ` Fabio Erculiani
2008-03-13 10:27 ` Robin H. Johnson
2008-03-13 12:53 ` Fabio Erculiani
2008-03-13 13:10 ` Fabio Erculiani
2008-03-13 13:27 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ryan Hill
2008-03-13 16:22 ` Fabio Erculiani
2008-03-13 16:43 ` Fabio Erculiani
2008-03-13 17:42 ` Rémi Cardona
2008-03-13 19:59 ` Robin H. Johnson
2008-03-14 12:47 ` Gilles Dartiguelongue
2008-03-13 16:52 ` Chris Gianelloni
2008-03-13 17:00 ` Fabio Erculiani
2008-03-13 19:20 ` [gentoo-dev] " René 'Necoro' Neumann
2008-03-13 19:37 ` [gentoo-dev] " Markus Ullmann
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