From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JVvAO-0003b7-JA for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 02 Mar 2008 20:52:16 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 55DEFE03F0; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 20:52:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gv-out-0910.google.com (gv-out-0910.google.com [216.239.58.189]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAD9AE03F0 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 20:52:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n40so2962977gve.39 for ; Sun, 02 Mar 2008 12:52:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=UjjNIiczwsE+5GF/VmNn06JBoiwgEfhwc5f7mJhoG5s=; b=OmkT7/brCpZAs9WcRFQH2BWpLWvKRFod1jnqU6HiBFprECTzYaGYDs1ssiZbM1bz9iW69UIBMQevvzduQJRy+Qmi1CyDjWSyIRfYOEEVc3Yiov7w10TDgAn2Sj45CvKv7XD4h3V7PsDlw9zuzx0gzyp85pY17wXfE7jm/8LO5qM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=ZAKw/4SCQ7hu4tMPjdl9PAgOfpAE41qJQQSBgkaMWf2OvnxyXEM+ItASQos0pPNm61JakG6y9wUObXEAG39wj6b7LcyA5JUe7ZCSBJNbmPCr4mf1WY7bkqxmFwPn7Y6eGc1u9TJRvn0WqHd78980pvBoqkqqNIO9KhpEA0GioWs= Received: by 10.115.77.1 with SMTP id e1mr4151914wal.103.1204491131046; Sun, 02 Mar 2008 12:52:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from seldon ( [24.4.204.103]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z15sm21539070pod.11.2008.03.02.12.52.10 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 02 Mar 2008 12:52:10 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 12:52:18 -0800 From: Brian Harring To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: One request for the next SoC: non already-devs students Message-ID: <20080302205218.GA23459@seldon.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> References: <47CAF9D1.6020303@gentoo.org> <200803022057.07269.philantrop@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="gKMricLos+KVdGMg" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200803022057.07269.philantrop@gentoo.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-Archives-Salt: df3e773d-73ca-4f53-b4e1-8a068b289a35 X-Archives-Hash: 75fc2ab2a7ab43269a39a7a9aa9e0854 --gKMricLos+KVdGMg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Mar 02, 2008 at 08:57:03PM +0100, Wulf C. Krueger wrote: > On Sunday, 02. March 2008 20:25:09 Diego 'Flameeyes' Petten=C3=B2 wrote: > > > Do we inspire them by telling them that anybody who has made this > > > choice in the past is not to be rewarded financially for doing so? > > This brings up a different point of view too.=20 >=20 > From my point of view it's pretty simple: I don't see us generating enoug= h=20 > interest among people not yet associated with Gentoo to successfully=20 > participate. > > Your idea would be fine with me if we had enough people wanting to do it= =20 > but I don't really see that happen. It could be argued that devs have an inherint advantage- they have far=20 greater access to devs to hash out their ideas, aware of what issues=20 the distro is facing, etc. All of that adds up giving devs a better=20 range of prospects for proposals and ironing out their proposals. To be clear also, I'm not implying any backhand dealings here- just=20 that I view it as a bit of a closed system that makes it easier for=20 those already in the circle to succeed. Personally, I'm not a fan of a flat out "no devs allowed"- a=20 percentile limit however, seems like a good step towards trying to=20 enable a focus on new blood (or even those new to FOSS). Basically, devs have it easy in hammering out a proposal from where=20 I'm sitting- I'd like to see gains in trying to enable new blood,=20 whether doing some limiting of devs or a greater outreach. I'm not=20 suggesting crap proposals should be accepted purely because they're=20 =66rom non-dev also, although I'd be tempted to give prioritization to=20 nondevs if it's neck in neck. > > Why should just somebody be rewarded financially and not someone else? >=20 > Because as a student people usually need the money more. SoC is limited to students anyways, thus kind of moot continuing that=20 particular line of discussion... ~brian --gKMricLos+KVdGMg Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHyxOCsiLx3HvNzgcRAvMpAJ9beLdIilA7GrF1iRMSvTzE9+5XCwCgk4iA 8FlKJByTODIsc0AhVU1DAQk= =1FI1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --gKMricLos+KVdGMg-- -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list