From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JKwLa-0008WT-3c for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 01 Feb 2008 13:54:26 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AE89AE0737; Fri, 1 Feb 2008 13:54:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66590E0737 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2008 13:54:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F3BF65E54; Fri, 1 Feb 2008 13:54:23 +0000 (UTC) From: Mike Frysinger Organization: wh0rd.org To: Natanael Copa Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] debianutils: system worthy ? Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 08:54:22 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 Cc: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org References: <200801280723.19003.vapier@gentoo.org> <200801311846.33678.vapier@gentoo.org> <1201868321.23116.4.camel@nc.nor.wtbts.org> In-Reply-To: <1201868321.23116.4.camel@nc.nor.wtbts.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1476546.m4oR4HKxdK"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200802010854.23037.vapier@gentoo.org> X-Archives-Salt: 3b9c91b8-49e7-413a-ba80-1d9a8478e16c X-Archives-Hash: 2d6721a0ab15f3a312b2b834e1e0269a --nextPart1476546.m4oR4HKxdK Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-6" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Friday 01 February 2008, Natanael Copa wrote: > On Thu, 2008-01-31 at 18:46 -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On Thursday 31 January 2008, Natanael Copa wrote: > > > On Wed, 2008-01-30 at 12:35 -0500, Philip Webb wrote: > > > > 080128 Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > > > now that the mktemp binary has been moved out of debianutils > > > > > and integrated straight into coreutils, > > > > > perhaps it's time to ask how important this package is to everyon= e. > > > > > current debianutils is part of "system" and provides: > > > > > - installkernel > > > > > - run-parts > > > > > - tempfile > > > > > - savelog > > > > > - mkboot > > > > > do people consider these things critical ? > > > > > i dont know the last time i personally needed/wanted any of these > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > 'equery d debianutils' gives me > > > > > > > > app-admin/sysklogd-1.4.2_pre20061230 (sys-apps/debianutils) > > > > app-portage/gentoolkit-0.2.3-r1 (userland_GNU? > > > > sys-apps/debianutils) sys-apps/mktemp-1.5 > > > > (>=3Dsys-apps/debianutils-2.16.2) > > > > > > > > The 2nd cb ignored, but the others seem important. > > > > I have Mktemp-1.5 installed, so what do you mean by your lines 1-2 ? > > > > Sysklogd seems to be an important pkg too. > > > > > > savelog is used here to rotate logs from a cron job. I had a user > > > rewriting the whole script the other week so it works without either > > > perl or debianutils. (he replaced 80 lines perl with 7 lines POSIX > > > shell code using sed, awk) > > > > > > I can create a bug on this so we get rid of both perl and debianutils > > > dependency for app-admin/sysklogd. (great for embedded) > > > > i dont quite follow ... savelog is already a POSIX script and i dont see > > it executing perl ... > > The /etc/cron.daily/syslog.cron executes both savelog > and /usr/sbin/syslogd-listfiles - which is a perl script. oh, so you're looking to replace a script syslog provides rather than the=20 savelog script sure, i'd open a bug enhancement request on the topic =2Dmike --nextPart1476546.m4oR4HKxdK Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iQIVAwUAR6MkjkFjO5/oN/WBAQItXRAA38yJsp9m9AcOeUNJrj69IpwpmvxxdHox mJUqKuXUCXr9ObUxZV0ndAFU0GnGLQbViCxyBtTfPvFgMxZsw9KsW6sUHJTXusjt KXv1QA7cvocZSWWKS/ONS1eJ9FuEEz9cM6ltsicG/ow3AlA0wCwsEaxQgLJxJj1a lB8D58h+qT0n8Yv8RH0hOF02iSfKNI3A6JtXIGNVR5cgKJ+kHJbtG6aUhKB+siT+ aVsRZRk3h7VB8lGDt6N2LhkOSmFK7rMw4JhWFqmjGM80ggAXHdgWRphgAgsbPx6n 6mECx4Jl6fb0YaAFZF3tbdcojMXSpfpetIS078Tq2CGcnWeOOuVEIyMveozVA/t/ 4+NCspaVGeXKX2GqOXhHVjYVNl3B1KwEP0+NI1ovcDSO0HG0dmAdd/LGmJGF7WiZ IB62yW0G8XTGWSFn3DWRoE7MvfFRA2iet8q0GWvtJjziERB5X4+kzFd30b4lHJkS kTrZzvknIF3Du/3GRx3bEkvy1zcVu6ykevUkppdBnU8+/xgCvAkWH6WO6WE+qL71 VlpSG7quxpERERuWlefOSTrNnejFbHzMwxVomep0e1le4o6AakWgpePEF+vluLVX j6zuS4NZMlUsH02ciM+rx5lX0X6TKUACOQ57KsDNtmV0CL0qzm9ga5XCVPQi1abq e7rHCgVlyTY= =WhOS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1476546.m4oR4HKxdK-- -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list