From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JKj77-0006UM-JK for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 23:46:37 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 36077E04C7; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 23:46:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03DA8E04C7 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 23:46:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EE486643F; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 23:46:34 +0000 (UTC) From: Mike Frysinger Organization: wh0rd.org To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] debianutils: system worthy ? Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 18:46:33 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 Cc: Natanael Copa References: <200801280723.19003.vapier@gentoo.org> <20080130173544.GA5077@sympatico.ca> <1201794543.19777.14.camel@nc.nor.wtbts.org> In-Reply-To: <1201794543.19777.14.camel@nc.nor.wtbts.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart4450582.t4dspZV96M"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200801311846.33678.vapier@gentoo.org> X-Archives-Salt: bfd5b2ce-9e7e-4d9f-b0be-4bce1bddb70b X-Archives-Hash: 39787ce781a1dc3117178a03400a7b6c --nextPart4450582.t4dspZV96M Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-6" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Thursday 31 January 2008, Natanael Copa wrote: > On Wed, 2008-01-30 at 12:35 -0500, Philip Webb wrote: > > 080128 Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > now that the mktemp binary has been moved out of debianutils > > > and integrated straight into coreutils, > > > perhaps it's time to ask how important this package is to everyone. > > > current debianutils is part of "system" and provides: > > > - installkernel > > > - run-parts > > > - tempfile > > > - savelog > > > - mkboot > > > do people consider these things critical ? > > > i dont know the last time i personally needed/wanted any of these ... > > > > 'equery d debianutils' gives me > > > > app-admin/sysklogd-1.4.2_pre20061230 (sys-apps/debianutils) > > app-portage/gentoolkit-0.2.3-r1 (userland_GNU? sys-apps/debianutils) > > sys-apps/mktemp-1.5 (>=3Dsys-apps/debianutils-2.16.2) > > > > The 2nd cb ignored, but the others seem important. > > I have Mktemp-1.5 installed, so what do you mean by your lines 1-2 ? > > Sysklogd seems to be an important pkg too. > > savelog is used here to rotate logs from a cron job. I had a user > rewriting the whole script the other week so it works without either > perl or debianutils. (he replaced 80 lines perl with 7 lines POSIX shell > code using sed, awk) > > I can create a bug on this so we get rid of both perl and debianutils > dependency for app-admin/sysklogd. (great for embedded) i dont quite follow ... savelog is already a POSIX script and i dont see it= =20 executing perl ... =2Dmike --nextPart4450582.t4dspZV96M Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iQIVAwUAR6Jd2UFjO5/oN/WBAQL+/BAA0OjIU5Cf6Yv3IC4ClehDEgUhu21W7R3X hFzk5KA6dHrO4qYXlnRWpLFbvEwKPC2JTM+gC3VpQ81OTni+9c7NYTLVQzIdalhd ep/xhf4BvGyI+CAXG9+mH+AL4HjbJSx/w1ZzEa/XdvtGcDr4HetK8vdZZewThEr7 r77onZoJXw/mH8qihOXbHpnooDaNP6O/fPWroHDlu0pA6upBa/QTSbt8ZSdNAMKf wlmuxAGM5eZ3AMsAIZORG8gRhat9Lc6APKWI68USj2ldXoUqRXeMnrapiM1keZX7 A6+7KkfLYJh7RZCDPjdCIzVei45/TY/wcs/79lbLOsjfq8VUc9pUgnaeKZ1w5LUi 79Cg2YP0LxOuX7slBU2EOn4+gKa4n7VcX5FX6QxqQYnX3+M2k/ygOubbYuSx2r5Y VhFXTEaEHQSJ0lxn4AGBfc157/OAhTvwpTk+sYp0WtacVbI7rjuIamJJiSws6Wia QURPFZqC3N43adEP6WSsq+waD8fMMWRoXF0T22q+yKb9h5gJnU+MIz2vx3S2X6ck d3zF9g+X9QppWE0Wq4pH5S4nsTLmXdIly0hSZcMdzn3rWQzQalIV38Najx3TvQKb oITNgwMLGbVElEjhD432s8dMeMjKIpIKpTBA4HurIGsO18PGSleMUEd/3g3E6SgR NvR0VFPXdnw= =YYoA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart4450582.t4dspZV96M-- -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list