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From: Olivier Galibert <galibert@pobox.com>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev]  Re: Concerns about WIPE_TMP change
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 00:29:20 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080119232920.GA17770@dspnet.fr.eu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <pan.2008.01.19.22.18.35@cox.net>

On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 10:18:35PM +0000, Duncan wrote:
> Richard Freeman <rich0@gentoo.org> posted 4791F359.1050500@gentoo.org,
> excerpted below, on  Sat, 19 Jan 2008 07:55:53 -0500:
> 
> > I think that this would probably warrant an elog.  Sure, anybody who
> > knows the "correct" way to admin unix doesn't put anything important in
> > /tmp - but educating our users before blowing away their data isn't a
> > bad thing.  We shouldn't assume our users are idiots, but this is an
> > obscure enough piece of admin knowledge that I think that users will be
> > impacted by the change.
> 
> Obscure?  It's the directory name (says another with both /tmp and /var/
> tmp on tmpfs).  How much less obscure can you get than announcing it 
> every time the path is referenced or specified?  Who could reasonably 
> argue that tmp doesn't mean tmp?

Tmp has never meant "erase at restart", because restarts are often not
predictable.  Tmp has sometimes meant things like "erased after a
week", or "erased when space gets low", but never "erased after
restart" which is just unusable.

Frankly, if I'm writing a long email (which mutt stores in /tmp) and a
powerloss makes it gone even if I was saving it from time to time
while I was writing it, I'll get annoyed.  Severely annoyed.

It's just another bug of the FHS that shoule be ignored.

  OG.
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-01-19 23:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-19  1:48 [gentoo-dev] Concerns about WIPE_TMP change Stefan de Konink
2008-01-19  2:12 ` Mark Loeser
2008-01-19 12:55   ` Richard Freeman
2008-01-19 22:18     ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2008-01-19 23:17       ` [gentoo-dev] Re: Concerns about WIPE_TMP change [offtopic] Stefan de Konink
2008-01-20  0:33         ` Alec Warner
2008-01-20  0:37           ` Stefan de Konink
2008-01-20  1:08         ` Duncan
2008-01-20 13:43         ` Richard Freeman
2008-01-22  1:34           ` Caleb Cushing
2008-01-22  2:54             ` Philip Webb
2008-01-24  7:06             ` Chris Gianelloni
2008-01-19 23:29       ` Olivier Galibert [this message]
2008-01-20  0:19         ` [gentoo-dev] Re: Concerns about WIPE_TMP change Ryan Hill
2008-01-20  1:23         ` Mike Frysinger
2008-01-20 13:47       ` Richard Freeman
2008-01-20 13:56         ` Fabian Groffen
2008-01-21  2:38         ` Donnie Berkholz
2008-01-21  5:05           ` Mike Frysinger
2008-01-21 21:42             ` Duncan
2008-01-19 11:05 ` [gentoo-dev] " Roy Marples
2008-01-19 20:54   ` Mike Frysinger
2008-01-19 21:03     ` Stefan de Konink
2008-01-19 21:26       ` Mike Frysinger
2008-01-19 21:33         ` Stefan de Konink

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